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Old 04-01-2022, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
Outbase positions are always announced on the first of the month. Each fleet only gets the positions available for their own fleet.
And to further expound on the great information above: Past few months after Germany went Level 4 / Art 33 there were much less opportunities to pickup trips and it was more of an extended time off/vacation if you will. Korea/Japan last month as well. When Art 33 dissipates then things will pickup again for the outbaser is a guess. Well, May is right around the corner so we’ll see how less crews we have available- or not?
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Old 04-01-2022, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
If you are a 767 driver, you will only get outbase bid notifications for the 767 only. 747 has slots for the HHN outbase for May.
There are outbase spots for both HHN and ICN for 747 FOs.
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Old 04-03-2022, 10:20 AM
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Hello everyone, just had a question about atlas air minimum pay per month, I know it’s 64 hrs per month, but in reality are you gonna average more hrs from trip and duty rigs? Or you would have to work on your off days to make more money?
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Old 04-03-2022, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cess310
Hello everyone, just had a question about atlas air minimum pay per month, I know it’s 64 hrs per month, but in reality are you gonna average more hrs from trip and duty rigs? Or you would have to work on your off days to make more money?
No guarantee of making more than 64hrs. Realistically you can expect 70 to 75 hours, but remember there are months with training, sick, vacation, etc. Same applies to incentive/hazard pay. It comes and goes.

So if its going to be hard for you at 64hrs/month, then you may want to think before coming over.
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Old 04-03-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
No guarantee of making more than 64hrs. Realistically you can expect 70 to 75 hours, but remember there are months with training, sick, vacation, etc. Same applies to incentive/hazard pay. It comes and goes.

So if its going to be hard for you at 64hrs/month, then you may want to think before coming over.
You only drop to min garantee if you’ve called in sick or conflict bid training or vacation or if you’re in training.
If you’ve been available for the required days then it’s 72hrs. (15 days x 4.85).
Cause I’m generally lazy I budget everything with 70 hrs for easy math.
Call it $6,500/month for your first year at the lowest once you hit the line.
$75,000 first year, per Diem excluded.
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Old 04-03-2022, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You only drop to min garantee if you’ve called in sick or conflict bid training or vacation or if you’re in training.
If you’ve been available for the required days then it’s 72hrs. (15 days x 4.85).
Cause I’m generally lazy I budget everything with 70 hrs for easy math.
Call it $6,500/month for your first year at the lowest once you hit the line.
$75,000 first year, per Diem excluded.
That may be true on the 74. Id say that at least 50% of 767 lines are only worth 64 hours.
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Old 04-03-2022, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
That may be true on the 74. Id say that at least 50% of 767 lines are only worth 64 hours.
On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.
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Old 04-03-2022, 04:48 PM
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On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.
JFK and CVG are the only bases that typically have international flying. That can change month to month depending on what the planning department wants to put on each base. The Asia DHL run out of ICN has bounced back and forth between being on the CVG and ONT bid package, and occasionally JFK.

From what I have seen, ONT and TPA do almost exclusively domestic(unless you count SJU as international, which they do from TPA). Most if not all of the Hawaii flying goes on the ONT bid package.
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Old 04-03-2022, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by C17B74
On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.
Seems to vary. I'd guess about 1/4 of the flying on the 767 is international. International flying is usually crewed with 3 pilots while domestic is usually two pilots. So it also depends on whether you're looking at departures, lines, etc.
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Old 04-04-2022, 12:25 AM
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Thanks guys, appreciate the verification information. Goes far when talking to others regarding different fleets and I don’t want to disseminate incorrect chatter. Also, good info for a hop to Hawaii, etc. Cheers!
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