Atlas Air Hiring
02-17-2022, 10:07 PM
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
First page of March bid lines for 747 FO shows ~91 hours credit. Highest BLG in that entire bid packet is 114, which is incredible, I had no idea there were lines that credited that high. Still, not close to what you claim of 164 hours..
A first year FO has to credit 170 hours to make $20k in a month. Come on man! That’s BS.
As far as me doing something wrong, $45k in a month = 164 hours pay. Never been close.
A first year FO has to credit 170 hours to make $20k in a month. Come on man! That’s BS.
As far as me doing something wrong, $45k in a month = 164 hours pay. Never been close.
Last line on the first page, 100.84 above guarantee. That is 164.84 hours BLG.
02-18-2022, 02:04 AM
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
02-18-2022, 03:34 AM
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Position: Yes
Posts: 139
In short…NO
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
02-18-2022, 03:49 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,583
In short…NO
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
02-18-2022, 03:54 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,583
In short…NO
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
The top 10-15 ANC FO’s that live locally will snag all those as is the case at every base.
You live in base for a reason.
Currently best bet is 30 day outbase from Incheon and you’ll see ANC every 4-5 days.
But who knows when that may go away.
It sounds harsh but if you want to be home don’t apply at Atlas.
Plan on being away for 17 days and anything less is gravy.
Budget on min monthly garantee and anything more is gravy.
There a few times where you will going most of the trip without seeing ANC. But as a former ANC guy, that was a rarity.
02-18-2022, 04:30 AM
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Posts: 175
Don’t listen to Tired. That used to be the way of it. But since we don’t do much Asia to Europe flying anymore. The likelihood of you having Anchorage layovers inside your 17 days are significantly higher now in the more recent lines.
02-18-2022, 06:11 AM
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: B747 FO
Posts: 626
9 Year 747 Captain here.
As always, YMMV, but all prospective newbies should keep in mind that the AIP improvements to the current substandard awarded contract are very much in jeopardy. Management is trying to go back on their previously agreed improvements to 401k match and LTD. If they don’t get right in the next couple of days and reach agreement, the AIP will likely fail and new hire pay will go back to $1600/mo for the first four months.
As always, YMMV, but all prospective newbies should keep in mind that the AIP improvements to the current substandard awarded contract are very much in jeopardy. Management is trying to go back on their previously agreed improvements to 401k match and LTD. If they don’t get right in the next couple of days and reach agreement, the AIP will likely fail and new hire pay will go back to $1600/mo for the first four months.
Not talking 401k or LTD now, but i would rather take 1600/m instead of 92 and get a 117/h year 1 pay.
02-18-2022, 07:27 AM
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 393
Just so in understand, since i haven't seen the communication. Are you talking about the contract signed last fall or the changes that happened as of January this year?
Not talking 401k or LTD now, but i would rather take 1600/m instead of 92 and get a 117/h year 1 pay.
Not talking 401k or LTD now, but i would rather take 1600/m instead of 92 and get a 117/h year 1 pay.
The AIP contains the change to new hire pay, LTD, 401k match increase and DC, changes to scope, and some other minor things. That is what is in question. The company is playing their usual games and our Union president said they gave them a deadline of midnight tonight(Friday) to make good on the agreement as originally negotiated. We may hear tomorrow that the entire AIP is gone. Who knows.
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