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Old 01-25-2022, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
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Can someone please explain how VX work and how the 64 hours is calculated vs MDG.
VX is volunteering to work on one of your off days. You can volunteer a number of different ways. You're probably not asking about how to volunteer, though. You're probably asking how extra work gets assigned among people who do volunteer.

Trips either get assigned or awarded via the open time system. This has to do with whether a trip gets assigned to a particular, convenient crewmember or if the award of extra flying goes through a system that looks at crew seniority. When you see us complain about drug deals and open time availability, a lot of the time we are complaining about trips that don't make it into the open time system. Once a trip is in the Open time system, trips that go to inappropriately junior crew trigger pay for senior crewmembers.

Pay is your minimum daily guarantee plus 2 hrs for your first day of working into a scheduled off day. 4 hours plus minimum daily for the second day, 6 hours for the third, etc. All of this is above and beyond what you'd otherwise be earning.

Minimum daily guarantee is the minimum credit hours you earn for each day of work..

64hrs is our minimum monthly guarantee. Let's say you have some sick days and only a few work days in a month. The lowest pay you will collect is 64hrs.

We can also trade and drop trips, but this is doen between two crewmembers directly then approved by scheduling. We do not have trade and drop systems like other airlines have.

Hope thIs explanation helps.
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
VX is volunteering to work on one of your off days. You can volunteer a number of different ways. You're probably not asking about how to volunteer, though. You're probably asking how extra work gets assigned among people who do volunteer.

Trips either get assigned or awarded via the open time system. This has to do with whether a trip gets assigned to a particular, convenient crewmember or if the award of extra flying goes through a system that looks at crew seniority. When you see us complain about drug deals and open time availability, a lot of the time we are complaining about trips that don't make it into the open time system. Once a trip is in the Open time system, trips that go to inappropriately junior crew trigger pay for senior crewmembers.

Pay is your minimum daily guarantee plus 2 hrs for your first day of working into a scheduled off day. 4 hours plus minimum daily for the second day, 6 hours for the third, etc. All of this is above and beyond what you'd otherwise be earning.

Minimum daily guarantee is the minimum credit hours you earn for each day of work..

64hrs is our minimum monthly guarantee. Let's say you have some sick days and only a few work days in a month. The lowest pay you will collect is 64hrs.

We can also trade and drop trips, but this is doen between two crewmembers directly then approved by scheduling. We do not have trade and drop systems like other airlines have.

Hope thIs explanation helps.
Sorry to correct this. But we do not have a minimum daily guarantee. We have a formula that calculates monthly rig based on hours 'away.'
ie 17 days is 408 hours 'Away'. But peoples duty period might not start til 2300z on Day one. That means instead of 408 hours you are actually looking at 385 for the bases of Credit. A minimum daily guarantee would mean we would see a bare minimum per day. That is not the case here.
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Old 01-25-2022, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
Pay is your minimum daily guarantee plus 2 hrs for your first day of working into a scheduled off day. 4 hours plus minimum daily for the second day, 6 hours for the third, etc. All of this is above and beyond what you'd otherwise be earning.

Minimum daily guarantee is the minimum credit hours you earn for each day of work..

64hrs is our minimum monthly guarantee. Let's say you have some sick days and only a few work days in a month. The lowest pay you will collect is 64hrs.

We can also trade and drop trips, but this is doen between two crewmembers directly then approved by scheduling. We do not have trade and drop systems like other airlines have.

Hope thIs explanation helps.
You get the 2-4-6-6 and either rig or actual block. You made it sound like you only make the rig.
Fly 10 hours on your third day and you get 16 hours of pay.
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
You get the 2-4-6-6 and either rig or actual block. You made it sound like you only make the rig.
Fly 10 hours on your third day and you get 16 hours of pay.
Is this 2-4-6-6 all at 175%?
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Old 01-26-2022, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by E3Pilot
Is this 2-4-6-6 all at 175%?
The 175% is Article 33 flying which is separate from OT flying. However, if your OT trip has Article 33 flying, then you get the flight or block at 175% plus the OT additional hours.
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Old 01-26-2022, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
Sorry to correct this. But we do not have a minimum daily guarantee. We have a formula that calculates monthly rig based on hours 'away.'
ie 17 days is 408 hours 'Away'. But peoples duty period might not start til 2300z on Day one. That means instead of 408 hours you are actually looking at 385 for the bases of Credit. A minimum daily guarantee would mean we would see a bare minimum per day. That is not the case here.
Thanks for that!
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
The 175% is Article 33 flying which is separate from OT flying. However, if your OT trip has Article 33 flying, then you get the flight or block at 175% plus the OT additional hours.
thank you!
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:42 AM
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Thanks guys really appreciate this, if you don't have MDG what the 4.87 i keep on hearing about?
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
Thanks guys really appreciate this, if you don't have MDG what the 4.87 i keep on hearing about?
CRT is calculated based on when you first report for your trip until you are released from your trip on the last day a a ratio of 1 hour pay for 4.95 hours. Which for a full day the math works out to 4.85 hours per day. However, Day 1 and Day 17 are pro rated unless you start day 1 at 0000Z (this is changing soon) and end on day 17 at 2359Z (this is changing soon).
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:19 AM
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I received a study guide within the hr email but it’s only one page and just a list of items to study up on. Is this correct or am I missing something.
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