Atlas Air Hiring
12-13-2021, 09:06 PM
Jet Jockey Junkie
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: F.O.
Posts: 231
Training
No, plan on 4 months at 1,600$ a month. 747 classes are in excess of 90 days. Good chance you'll be hitting 120th day before you even start OE and then going to full guarantee. The training center isn't staffed or designed to train the amount that they have down here in Miami and want to hire. You can plan for 1 day on 2 to 3 days off kind of schedule once into fixed base. We did 2 full motion sims in a span of 8 days for example.
I heard just plan the full first 4 months at $1600 plus per diem as you said above, no chance of getting going earlier. I’m guessing the end of year has become very busy for HR now and also heard that the next 747 class has 27 in it, any idea what the Jan and Feb classes for 777 are looking like?
12-14-2021, 01:14 AM
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,609
With the current issues regarding resignations and new hires does it look like the training could become even more delayed?
I heard just plan the full first 4 months at $1600 plus per diem as you said above, no chance of getting going earlier. I’m guessing the end of year has become very busy for HR now and also heard that the next 747 class has 27 in it, any idea what the Jan and Feb classes for 777 are looking like?
I heard just plan the full first 4 months at $1600 plus per diem as you said above, no chance of getting going earlier. I’m guessing the end of year has become very busy for HR now and also heard that the next 747 class has 27 in it, any idea what the Jan and Feb classes for 777 are looking like?
Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
12-14-2021, 03:59 AM
Jet Jockey Junkie
Joined APC: May 2015
Position: F.O.
Posts: 231
Fleet
Probably pretty small classes, they are not hiring much into that fleet right now. With the new MIA base, who knows.
Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
12-14-2021, 04:02 AM
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,609
12-14-2021, 07:50 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 393
Per diem is $2.75/hr CONUS. That puts it at $66/day or $1980 for a 30 day month. I believe the current government cap is $66/day for non taxable M&IE, so that should all be non taxable.
The $1600/mo training pay is taxable.
12-14-2021, 08:27 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
Posts: 1,573
Don’t try to upsell the sh!t sandwich by telling people what they will get “effectively” due to per diem being non taxable. If you’re going to give numbers, give real numbers.
Per diem is $2.75/hr CONUS. That puts it at $66/day or $1980 for a 30 day month. I believe the current government cap is $66/day for non taxable M&IE, so that should all be non taxable.
The $1600/mo training pay is taxable.
Per diem is $2.75/hr CONUS. That puts it at $66/day or $1980 for a 30 day month. I believe the current government cap is $66/day for non taxable M&IE, so that should all be non taxable.
The $1600/mo training pay is taxable.
Stay hydrated, stay frosty, it’s Miami after all.
12-14-2021, 09:21 AM
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Posts: 16
Probably pretty small classes, they are not hiring much into that fleet right now. With the new MIA base, who knows.
Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
Plan for the 4 months at $1600, the good thing is, with per diem first 3 months is effectively more like $4500/month (large part of the per diem is tax free).
Bring a car, buy groceries, cook your own food just like you would at home. It's not that expensive to live in the complex for 3 months. Unless you want it to be.
And plan ahead if you can. If (and its a big if, but who thinks COVID is going away anytime soon?) our COVID pay keeps on going for China, you'll catch up on the pay within the first few months on the line.
Don’t buy into this per diem number for what you’re getting “paid”. Bring a car? Unless you live in Florida or a connecting state, that’s unrealistic. Hard to cook your own food when you don’t have a stove and only a hot plate that boils water in 20 minutes if you’re lucky. The Residence Inn breakfast program changed in October and now your choice is between gas station quiches or gas station slurry burritos for breakfast or cereal. The Marriott in the compound has a restaurant and cafe but prices for food just went up this month. We’ve been here since October and haven’t seen a full per diem payment yet due to the way it is paid out. December 31 will be the first time we get a full per diem check. Bottom line, plan for paychecks around $580 for 4 months with a bit more at the end of the month for your per diem from previous month.
12-14-2021, 10:09 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,552
Don’t buy into this per diem number for what you’re getting “paid”. Bring a car? Unless you live in Florida or a connecting state, that’s unrealistic. Hard to cook your own food when you don’t have a stove and only a hot plate that boils water in 20 minutes if you’re lucky. The Residence Inn breakfast program changed in October and now your choice is between gas station quiches or gas station slurry burritos for breakfast or cereal. The Marriott in the compound has a restaurant and cafe but prices for food just went up this month. We’ve been here since October and haven’t seen a full per diem payment yet due to the way it is paid out. December 31 will be the first time we get a full per diem check. Bottom line, plan for paychecks around $580 for 4 months with a bit more at the end of the month for your per diem from previous month.
As far as cooking, I managed to get groceries and cook with that hot plate just perfectly fine.
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