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Old 11-05-2021, 01:20 PM
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Thanks guys, very much appreciated. $3500 - 4K is not too bad for training, I genuinly thought it was just the $1600. I’m betting with those current class sizes in the next 3 months they will be really struggling to get more than 5-10 max per class and getting worse.

what’s the training like as in how many sims and are there FMS trainers, Flat panel trainers etc before going into sim and will they give you stuff to study before you arrive like flows, profiles etc?

Keep in mind you won't see your first per diem check until the end of the second month you are in training. Long training program with variable levels of organization. Plan to be here for at least 90 days. Lots of 1 day on, 3 days off, or 1 day on 6 days off or 1 on 1 off. After INDOC and a week of what they called general systems operations, they have SIT training for 5 sessions, Fixed Base for 6 sessions and then 10 full motion sessions including checkride. Then 8 sessions that have been taking 3-4 weeks to complete of mixed class and sim post checkride for differences etc.That is the footprint for the 747 at least.

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Old 11-05-2021, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Egg320

what’s the training like as in how many sims and are there FMS trainers, Flat panel trainers etc before going into sim and will they give you stuff to study before you arrive like flows, profiles etc?
767 had 6 FPT sessions, followed by 8 sims, 9th being your type ride. You get systems videos to watch before showing up, which I highly recommend having done before getting to indoc, but no flows or procedures. I wouldn’t worry about them at that point.
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Old 11-05-2021, 02:34 PM
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On the 747 training is the opposite of drinking from a firehose.
By the time you hit the checking events, you are overprepared. They could cut the footprint in half and people would still pass.
Obviously, take training seriously, but it's totally different than let's say regional airline training is.
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Old 11-05-2021, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Setspeed
767 had 6 FPT sessions, followed by 8 sims, 9th being your type ride. You get systems videos to watch before showing up, which I highly recommend having done before getting to indoc, but no flows or procedures. I wouldn’t worry about them at that point.
Again thank a million guys, super helpful information. Good to know you guys had plenty of time to prepare even if the training footprint is quite long. I guess it’s better than the Firehose approach as mentioned that the regionals do.

By SIT training are you referring to the Flat Panel Trainer (FPT) and Fixed base do you mean a full non motion sim or is that where you are referring to the FPT instead. Sorry just want to be fully prepared so I can make sure I know what I’m in for.

The videos seem like a MUST as this would be very useful information to have and I’m guessing help a lot with the oral. Again really appreciate the helpful responses, very much appreciated.
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Old 11-06-2021, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320
Again thank a million guys, super helpful information. Good to know you guys had plenty of time to prepare even if the training footprint is quite long. I guess it’s better than the Firehose approach as mentioned that the regionals do.

By SIT training are you referring to the Flat Panel Trainer (FPT) and Fixed base do you mean a full non motion sim or is that where you are referring to the FPT instead. Sorry just want to be fully prepared so I can make sure I know what I’m in for.

The videos seem like a MUST as this would be very useful information to have and I’m guessing help a lot with the oral. Again really appreciate the helpful responses, very much appreciated.
Every plane’s program is a bit different. For the 767, our SIT was in an FPT and we only had 1 which was just prior to our oral I think. Then we had the 6 FPT for procedures training. It was all more than enough like others have said. And the system videos were just nice to not have to do on top of going to class all week.
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:02 AM
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Are there updated avionics on the 767 fleet? Standardized or hodgepodge?

Also curious about 747's.......
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:11 AM
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Any one recommend AEROWINX 747 to get the layout and the big picture? Or any other system anyone recommend to get started? Thank you !!!!


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Old 11-06-2021, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurat
Are there updated avionics on the 767 fleet? Standardized or jumble?

Also curious about 747's.......
The 747 avionics is standard across the board, all the 74s have NG FMS with the exception of one which is has or going to be converted over to the NG FMS.

I am not sure if we have any 76s with the LDS mods already, but they are supposed to converting the non LDS birds over to LDS birds starting next year.
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:13 AM
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Any one recommend AEROWINX 747 to get the layout and the big picture? Or any other system anyone recommend to get started? Thank you !!!!


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Wait until you get to trailing and grab aerowinx while there. Sit tight and weight until you get access to the CPATs then work on those and try to have them completed prior to Day 1 of Indoc and you will be good to go.
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Old 11-06-2021, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
Wait until you get to trailing and grab aerowinx while there. Sit tight and weight until you get access to the CPATs then work on those and try to have them completed prior to Day 1 of Indoc and you will be good to go.

Awesome thank you for the advice life is good !!!!!


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