Atlas Air Hiring
06-08-2021, 08:28 PM
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Great post! I could not agree more. Atlas is a great place to work, if nothing else, because we provide our pilots with food on the airplanes. Competitive pay isn't even required. Everyone knows pilots will fly just for the food. I think I even saw a tee shirts about that.
BAM here it is = Yes we need more compensation in all areas.....
Regarding myself only, here’s my skinny/lifestyle having posted this recently elsewhere regarding ACMI:
Yup, Majors, LCC are great for planning a very lucrative future and stability as best you can in one of the most unsure industries in the world. Young, planning for a real family it’s time to work for a living and most flying isn’t work comparably speaking of course. ACMI is not for everyone by any means but it offers so much dependent on what you enjoy in life. If you just go by numbers $$$ etc it totally makes sense looking at other outfits from the outside. Slave to youngsters at home, elderly needs, in-law needs, spouse requirements/strength/independence (inability to function on their own) ACMI will not bode well for you especially if that’s your jam so it’s not recommended. If you have a superior other half and/or support system you can do your job effectively and efficiently; therefore, ACMI flying is quite the opposite of mundane point to point rinse repeat every few hours, every day, every other week and you get well paid for it. It’s not all roses by any means, but many of us get our travel done well before 65 when venturing out won’t be that easy and on your dime and time. I have family in Europe and the Far East so there’s one caveat. Speaking for myself I truly enjoy going to so-called “work”, having breakfast with friends in Korea, dining with our folks and FedEx/Brown buds in Japan, chilling with fairly senior buds from the Majors at Dukes in Hawaii (they hate it, same carousel runs, but it’s fun to see them), chilling at our favorite eat sites in Hong Kong (not for awhile now), hanging out on the beach in Australia or even killing time with the crews favorite beverages wherever and so many other places. ALL PRE-PANDEMONIUM!!! Just for myself, it’s free travel with friends and 2 weeks of vacation at the house with my favorite person and our(her) dog. Time zones, long blocks of time away, $, retirement, there are always issues wherever you are dependent on your priorities. I planned my retirement, have no planes, Ferrari’s, ex-wives (so far
, extended family anchors, etc. Day 9 at home typing this, 7 more before I leave for 16 days (it’s not always this nice) but 14 is my norm chilling at home with some housework. This really is the “I would quit my job, but I would lose all my rest/travel/authentic food benefits, etc.” for me specifically. Hotel manager gave me a tour 2 weeks ago of the ball room where the Nuremberg Judges ate/drank/were merry all night long during the trials. It’s been amazing and I will continue as long as it or I last. Biggest reason: We have some really great folks! - my take. Misery loves company perhaps, possibly but to each their own as I have dug ditches before...*Overall, it is a good time for some and miserable of others. Honest truth, this could be the best job/career in the industry hands down but the frustration is it most likely can’t/won’t meet everyone’s expectations. You must keep trying though, never give up and kudos to those in the trenches making it better for the rest of us. Stay, don’t stay and get your “dream job” elsewhere. I wish everyone the best in their endeavors. Be safe
06-09-2021, 08:02 AM
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06-09-2021, 12:06 PM
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06-09-2021, 10:20 PM
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John Dietrich, that is hilarious - Liked CEO’s 1st post ever!
BAM here it is = Yes we need more compensation in all areas.....
Regarding myself only, here’s my skinny/lifestyle having posted this recently elsewhere regarding ACMI:
Yup, Majors, LCC are great for planning a very lucrative future and stability as best you can in one of the most unsure industries in the world. Young, planning for a real family it’s time to work for a living and most flying isn’t work comparably speaking of course. ACMI is not for everyone by any means but it offers so much dependent on what you enjoy in life. If you just go by numbers $$$ etc it totally makes sense looking at other outfits from the outside. Slave to youngsters at home, elderly needs, in-law needs, spouse requirements/strength/independence (inability to function on their own) ACMI will not bode well for you especially if that’s your jam so it’s not recommended. If you have a superior other half and/or support system you can do your job effectively and efficiently; therefore, ACMI flying is quite the opposite of mundane point to point rinse repeat every few hours, every day, every other week and you get well paid for it. It’s not all roses by any means, but many of us get our travel done well before 65 when venturing out won’t be that easy and on your dime and time. I have family in Europe and the Far East so there’s one caveat. Speaking for myself I truly enjoy going to so-called “work”, having breakfast with friends in Korea, dining with our folks and FedEx/Brown buds in Japan, chilling with fairly senior buds from the Majors at Dukes in Hawaii (they hate it, same carousel runs, but it’s fun to see them), chilling at our favorite eat sites in Hong Kong (not for awhile now), hanging out on the beach in Australia or even killing time with the crews favorite beverages wherever and so many other places. ALL PRE-PANDEMONIUM!!! Just for myself, it’s free travel with friends and 2 weeks of vacation at the house with my favorite person and our(her) dog. Time zones, long blocks of time away, $, retirement, there are always issues wherever you are dependent on your priorities. I planned my retirement, have no planes, Ferrari’s, ex-wives (so far, extended family anchors, etc. Day 9 at home typing this, 7 more before I leave for 16 days (it’s not always this nice) but 14 is my norm chilling at home with some housework. This really is the “I would quit my job, but I would lose all my rest/travel/authentic food benefits, etc.” for me specifically. Hotel manager gave me a tour 2 weeks ago of the ball room where the Nuremberg Judges ate/drank/were merry all night long during the trials. It’s been amazing and I will continue as long as it or I last. Biggest reason: We have some really great folks! - my take. Misery loves company perhaps, possibly but to each their own as I have dug ditches before...
*Overall, it is a good time for some and miserable of others. Honest truth, this could be the best job/career in the industry hands down but the frustration is it most likely can’t/won’t meet everyone’s expectations. You must keep trying though, never give up and kudos to those in the trenches making it better for the rest of us. Stay, don’t stay and get your “dream job” elsewhere. I wish everyone the best in their endeavors. Be safe
BAM here it is = Yes we need more compensation in all areas.....
Regarding myself only, here’s my skinny/lifestyle having posted this recently elsewhere regarding ACMI:
Yup, Majors, LCC are great for planning a very lucrative future and stability as best you can in one of the most unsure industries in the world. Young, planning for a real family it’s time to work for a living and most flying isn’t work comparably speaking of course. ACMI is not for everyone by any means but it offers so much dependent on what you enjoy in life. If you just go by numbers $$$ etc it totally makes sense looking at other outfits from the outside. Slave to youngsters at home, elderly needs, in-law needs, spouse requirements/strength/independence (inability to function on their own) ACMI will not bode well for you especially if that’s your jam so it’s not recommended. If you have a superior other half and/or support system you can do your job effectively and efficiently; therefore, ACMI flying is quite the opposite of mundane point to point rinse repeat every few hours, every day, every other week and you get well paid for it. It’s not all roses by any means, but many of us get our travel done well before 65 when venturing out won’t be that easy and on your dime and time. I have family in Europe and the Far East so there’s one caveat. Speaking for myself I truly enjoy going to so-called “work”, having breakfast with friends in Korea, dining with our folks and FedEx/Brown buds in Japan, chilling with fairly senior buds from the Majors at Dukes in Hawaii (they hate it, same carousel runs, but it’s fun to see them), chilling at our favorite eat sites in Hong Kong (not for awhile now), hanging out on the beach in Australia or even killing time with the crews favorite beverages wherever and so many other places. ALL PRE-PANDEMONIUM!!! Just for myself, it’s free travel with friends and 2 weeks of vacation at the house with my favorite person and our(her) dog. Time zones, long blocks of time away, $, retirement, there are always issues wherever you are dependent on your priorities. I planned my retirement, have no planes, Ferrari’s, ex-wives (so far
, extended family anchors, etc. Day 9 at home typing this, 7 more before I leave for 16 days (it’s not always this nice) but 14 is my norm chilling at home with some housework. This really is the “I would quit my job, but I would lose all my rest/travel/authentic food benefits, etc.” for me specifically. Hotel manager gave me a tour 2 weeks ago of the ball room where the Nuremberg Judges ate/drank/were merry all night long during the trials. It’s been amazing and I will continue as long as it or I last. Biggest reason: We have some really great folks! - my take. Misery loves company perhaps, possibly but to each their own as I have dug ditches before...*Overall, it is a good time for some and miserable of others. Honest truth, this could be the best job/career in the industry hands down but the frustration is it most likely can’t/won’t meet everyone’s expectations. You must keep trying though, never give up and kudos to those in the trenches making it better for the rest of us. Stay, don’t stay and get your “dream job” elsewhere. I wish everyone the best in their endeavors. Be safe
06-10-2021, 12:08 AM
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Great post! I could not agree more. Atlas is a great place to work, if nothing else, because we provide our pilots with food on the airplanes. Competitive pay isn't even required. Everyone knows pilots will fly just for the food. I think I even saw a tee shirts about that.
Do not mistake - the pay was crap, the work rules were poor, and I left as a pretty junior FO.
I’m not going to lie, I made my trips fun. Way more fun than brand X.
06-10-2021, 05:27 AM
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No, schedule will usually be 17 days per month (depending on the fleet). So, you will *probably* make more than min guarantee. However, if you’re ever sick, get home reserve, or choose not to go to training on your days off, then you’ll be getting 50 hours for that month.
06-10-2021, 05:42 AM
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No, schedule will usually be 17 days per month (depending on the fleet). So, you will *probably* make more than min guarantee. However, if you’re ever sick, get home reserve, or choose not to go to training on your days off, then you’ll be getting 50 hours for that month.
Training on days off? So they schedule you training in addition to 17 days on?
06-10-2021, 06:19 AM
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