Droopy

And Boeing is on NW36th Street in Miami. I'm seeing the connection!

{not sure where the sarcasm emoji thing is}

Globemaster2827

It's a valid point but when Atlas crashes a passenger jet or there are more casualties than just the crew I personally believe that the general public is going to finally have some questions. While I certainly don't hope to see that I fear it's simply a matter of time. You can't have the hiring practices that Atlas has gotten away with and not have crashes. All of these problem children will now be upgrading with new problem children in the right seat... Some will meet the standard even if it's enforced.

I think one or two crashes down the road is when the FAA starts getting called out for not shutting this down.

zerozero

I wonder if you can see how incredibly unproductive and corrosive your comments have been through the course of all these threads?

Allow me to provide a very brief synopsis of your "amalgamated" comments:

"Atlas sucks."
"The union sucks."
"The FAA sucks."

Did I miss anything? How about providing some comments that are constructive and forward thinking for a change? Have a great weekend.

Twin Wasp

There is a program in the works where air carriers would submit pilot training records to a central registry and an air carrier hiring pilots would submit their request to the registry and not just the air carriers on the applicant's resume. But it’s been moving at the speed of government. I’ve got a feeling the Houston crash may expedite it.

TiredSoul

Well you’ve got the first one wrong.
The other two...we can argue about.
Talk about being positive, your posting history shows all you do here is wail and moan on Atlas/AAWH/ATI/Southern threads.
You’re like the resident violinist.

rickair7777

https://www.faa.gov/regulations_poli...ords_database/

It's here, in Beta mode. Everybody can (and should!) log in and check your record for accuracy.

Some things might be missing because it's still a work in progress, but obviously you want to make sure your record doesn't reflect erroneous negative info.

rickair7777

Moderator question for the natives: Should I move this thread over to the cargo forum? It's been here for a long time, maybe before the cargo forum existed.

Elevation

The Case for Moving the Thread to Cargo or Charter:
There was a time when people were genuinely interested in coming to Atlas. Questions on this thread, if you look way back, were related to hiring, etc. Now this is basically a thread full of shop-talk. We fly passengers as well as freight, and the future of how much freight we fly versus passengers is hard to predict.

The Case for Keeping this Thread Here in Hiring:
At some point Atlas will get a new contract. Conditions change. Just as this was once a destination airline that has become a laughing stock, the same thing can happen in reverse. Look at Kalitta. If and when we round whatever corner we have to round, there will be renewed interest in getting aboard here. People will want to know the details and history that we've discussed here. Looking through this deep thread, sorting the wheat from the chaff of the thousands of pages of discussions, would be decent information for whoever takes an interest in coming here should we return to some semblance of a real airline. This thread has become a valuable archive. Moving it will won't erase the information, but it will be less accessible.

Also, there are already tons of Atlas threads in Cargo.

A third option:
Make an Atlas/Southern subgroup, just like FedEx and UPS have. Cram all things Atlas and Southern in there so we stop filling up space all over the board.

goinaround

I feel like Atlas/Southern and Kalitta would make good use of a sub-forum in the cargo section and clean up the threads below a little......

Transition

Atlas pilots lost another couple of judgements in court today. Chances for a decent future contract got much slimmer and further down the road. Executive leadership is still trying to litigate its way to success. More impetus for current pilots to leave, and most of us are job hunting in earnest. Based on the news today, that is accelerating quickly. It is our belief that Atlas is on death's doorstep. Good luck to all. See you guys at a job fair.