TiredSoul

Well...most here are not trying very hard then.

It’s truly amazing how pilots universally complain and moan.

You’ll find the above in literally ALL the airline threads on this forum.
Just fill in the blanks for the airline name.

The quoted came from a Sun country thread.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/2722877-post6.html

CandlerKid

I looked at the UPS, FedEx, Delta, United, and American threads. They weren’t saying that... Go ahead use Sunny for your example of everybody though.

JackStraw

Sun Country? That’s your example? Are you for real?

ATLpilot03

Looking for real information.

What is amount of hours expected each month one would fly on the 747 in the first year after training?

How long to hold Mia or HSV?

blinkpilot182

You made a similar post 2 years ago. There is an abundance of “real information” on this thread.


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TiredSoul

Depends.
If you’re willing to work about 800hrs.
HSV in about a year, MIA little longer although about 5-6 months ago they moved 20+ FO’s to MIA which meant also junior FO’s made it there.

ATLpilot03

Thanks TiredSoul!

DC8DRIVER

Junior MIA FO was a 6/17 hire. Very little movement in Miami.
Junior HSV new hire was a 7/18 hire.

There is no guarantee which fleet type you'd get, though.

Assuming you are asking about flight hours for pay purposes, on months WITHOUT training, sick, or vacation, you could average anywhere from 70 - 75 hours. Months WITH training, sick, or vacation you would be closer to the first year min guarantee of 50 hours. Actual time flying the plane would be about 25% of that due to Atlas using four person crews on most 747 flights.

Read up on the downsides of the job at Atlas. If you are qualified to fly at Atlas, you would be qualified to get hired at OMNI or Kalitta, both of which have far, far better pay and working conditions.

DC8DRIVER

Yes! Absolutely!! We really shouldn't complain because if we do, we are just being lazy because we can't or don't move on to a better job. You see, Atlas is just like all airlines on these forums. Things are fine here. Nothing to see ... just move along.

God Forbid we stay and try to better our situation by sharing difficulties online in an effort to determine what would best for us and our jobs. That's just plain whining and we simply must buck up and take our punches silently like the good soldiers we should be.

And if other airlines lie to prospective pilots in order to get them to come to work, then it is just fine and dandy if Atlas does the same. After all, airlines and their recruiting departments are entitled to their own set of "alternate facts" when it comes to pilots trying to make critical career decisions. And who are we to question those "alternate facts" even when they are proven to be untrue?

jungle driver

two questions...

currently what is the most junior CA date of hire and what is the projected upgrade time for a new hire today (i know is a little subjective and a moving target but what your best guess)

how/when do you get to pick your fleet? if you really wanted the 74 and not the 76 could you get guaranteed a fleet before accepting a CJO?