Atlas Air Hiring
02-21-2017, 07:50 PM
Ice-bagger
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
Ignore this ^^^^^ fake pilot management shill. This poser is a typical Keyboard commando fanning the flames of discontent to divide us. They are Pretending to be one of us. If truly all in, this faker wouldn't be publicly attacking fellow pilots on the same seniority list.
Just because I don't believe the claim that there are "questionable mx actions", all of a sudden I am management shill? HA! I am not management, shill or otherwise. LMFAO.
But to come on a public forum and say, "I am not an A&P but I talked to this "other maintainer" and I believe that there are questionable MX actions going on...." is absurd.
I mean c'mon man....really? I am not attacking anybody....I am merely pointing out the absurdity of the OP's claim. No more. No less. So in your opinion, I have to say, "YES, I totally believe the OP's unsubstantiated claim because it came from them as an anonymous poster with no ability to prove his/her position!!!", right?! GAWD....save it.
and btw rmr1992 you conveniently left out part of my quote where I thanked the OP. Convenient cut and paste eh?. Thanks so much.
Last edited by Davetastic; 02-21-2017 at 08:11 PM.
02-21-2017, 08:15 PM
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
What is really funny is this quote about being fast/loose with the facts.
So you are selective with whom you have a pet peeve about fast and loose facts eh rmr1992?
02-22-2017, 12:15 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 126
Just because I don't believe the claim that there are "questionable mx actions", all of a sudden I am management shill? HA! I am not management, shill or otherwise. LMFAO.
But to come on a public forum and say, "I am not an A&P but I talked to this "other maintainer" and I believe that there are questionable MX actions going on...." is absurd.
I mean c'mon man....really? I am not attacking anybody....I am merely pointing out the absurdity of the OP's claim. No more. No less. So in your opinion, I have to say, "YES, I totally believe the OP's unsubstantiated claim because it came from them as an anonymous poster with no ability to prove his/her position!!!", right?! GAWD....save it.
and btw rmr1992 you conveniently left out part of my quote where I thanked the OP. Convenient cut and paste eh?. Thanks so much.
But to come on a public forum and say, "I am not an A&P but I talked to this "other maintainer" and I believe that there are questionable MX actions going on...." is absurd.
I mean c'mon man....really? I am not attacking anybody....I am merely pointing out the absurdity of the OP's claim. No more. No less. So in your opinion, I have to say, "YES, I totally believe the OP's unsubstantiated claim because it came from them as an anonymous poster with no ability to prove his/her position!!!", right?! GAWD....save it.
and btw rmr1992 you conveniently left out part of my quote where I thanked the OP. Convenient cut and paste eh?. Thanks so much.
02-22-2017, 12:43 AM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2017
Posts: 48
According to your post only an A&P can point out something wrong with the aircraft. Guess all those walk around the aircraft were for naught. The details of that incident are beyond the scope and rules of posting in this forum (just like your last post btw).
...and Yes. Report was filed.
02-22-2017, 05:58 AM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Position: 747 CA
Posts: 344
Dave, I don't think you are a troll, but you don't seem to understand the sensitive nerve you have struck. Do I understand correctly that you have been here for 3 years?
There are so many pilots here who have been working hard and putting up with abuse for 10-20 years. These guys have been waiting on the come for something that never materializes.
This company has perpetrated some down right evil actions against this pilot group over the years. Time and the value of money has been lost by this group and many of us are too old/over qualified to make the move. Those who can certainly are. Many of us simply have to ride this train until it goes off the tracks.
The Atlas Air management team is devoid of honor and ethics and are drunk from money that was not earned but appropriated through corporate shenanigans.
There are so many pilots here who have been working hard and putting up with abuse for 10-20 years. These guys have been waiting on the come for something that never materializes.
This company has perpetrated some down right evil actions against this pilot group over the years. Time and the value of money has been lost by this group and many of us are too old/over qualified to make the move. Those who can certainly are. Many of us simply have to ride this train until it goes off the tracks.
The Atlas Air management team is devoid of honor and ethics and are drunk from money that was not earned but appropriated through corporate shenanigans.
Last edited by Atlas Shrugged; 02-22-2017 at 06:00 AM. Reason: grammar
02-22-2017, 05:59 AM
Ice-bagger
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
If there was any doubt before...you just confirmed your troll status. Congratulations.
According to your post only an A&P can point out something wrong with the aircraft. Guess all those walk around the aircraft were for naught. The details of that incident are beyond the scope and rules of posting in this forum (just like your last post btw).
...and Yes. Report was filed.
According to your post only an A&P can point out something wrong with the aircraft. Guess all those walk around the aircraft were for naught. The details of that incident are beyond the scope and rules of posting in this forum (just like your last post btw).
...and Yes. Report was filed.
I guess you didn't read the "Thank you" part......
02-22-2017, 06:28 AM
Ice-bagger
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
Dave, I don't think you are a troll, but you don't seem to understand the sensitive nerve you have struck. Do I understand correctly that you have been here for 3 years?
There are so many pilots here who have been working hard and putting up with abuse for 10-20 years. These guys have been waiting on the come for something that never materializes.
This company has perpetrated some down right evil actions against this pilot group over the years. Time and the value of money has been lost by this group and many of us are too old/over qualified to make the move. Those who can certainly are. Many of us simply have to ride this train until it goes off the tracks.
The Atlas Air management team is devoid of honor and ethics and are drunk from money that was not earned but appropriated through corporate shenanigans.
There are so many pilots here who have been working hard and putting up with abuse for 10-20 years. These guys have been waiting on the come for something that never materializes.
This company has perpetrated some down right evil actions against this pilot group over the years. Time and the value of money has been lost by this group and many of us are too old/over qualified to make the move. Those who can certainly are. Many of us simply have to ride this train until it goes off the tracks.
The Atlas Air management team is devoid of honor and ethics and are drunk from money that was not earned but appropriated through corporate shenanigans.
None the less, I just call BS as I see it, total BS...like the MX post. If it happened then I am glad he reported it....and I thanked him. But without substantiation or proof, his words are worth nothing, especially when worded just to incite an uprising!! Or the idiotic claims of imputed income...vastly exaggerated ..again with no proof and I don't see any body rushing to put up a redacted pay stub. It has all been, "my buddy this...", and "a guy I know that....". Can't you see that?!
BUT, I have never put anybody down for fighting the good fight AGAINST management for suing us or being "ALL IN". But, being "all in" doesn't entitle anyone to put stories up here saying, "I have a buddy it happened to as well so it must be true".
THIS IS A WEB FORUM PEOPLE....so choose words carefully. I wouldn't doubt that corporate lawyers are coming through this thread picking it apart in an attempt to ascertain and undermine our position. See how that works? MY POSITION...I'm not saying, "...some guy down the road so it must be true". Let's try another one: "I had a feeling that some of the cargo on board our AC weren't packaged to spec so I filed a report". One more: "I heard that there are training failures attributed to the new FO type. Anybody else heard that? I know it happened to at least one guy. I wonder if it is more widespread". .....keeping it the "real" zone. (this paragraph not meant for you shrugged)
I have been in this industry for a short 12 years and I was an ALPA fool as an RJ CA and left after 9 to come here so I understand contract negotiations and conflict of interest and so on but making crap up doesn't strengthen our position.
Feel free to continue with the BS and wild claims and I'll continue with the shovel.....(also, not meant for you shrugged).
I too am going to ride this train until it comes off the tracks(for my own reasons)....but I am not going to help them do it. Nor will I fly outside of the contract. I never have and I never will. At the end of the day, I want to help the prospective candidates of this thread get the information that they need to make an informed decision about coming here, but lately it has become a BULL CRAP, whining, and complaining thread totally devoid of the information the prospective applicants are seeking.
So, HEY, prospective candidates....PM me and i'll give you my personal experiences.....the good, the bad AND the ugly.
Last edited by Davetastic; 02-22-2017 at 06:56 AM.
02-22-2017, 06:43 AM
Ice-bagger
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
If there was any doubt before...you just confirmed your troll status. Congratulations.
According to your post only an A&P can point out something wrong with the aircraft. Guess all those walk around the aircraft were for naught. The details of that incident are beyond the scope and rules of posting in this forum (just like your last post btw).
...and Yes. Report was filed.
According to your post only an A&P can point out something wrong with the aircraft. Guess all those walk around the aircraft were for naught. The details of that incident are beyond the scope and rules of posting in this forum (just like your last post btw).
...and Yes. Report was filed.
You could have easily written this so that it didn't seem so unverifiable or not believable.
...."I was on a walk around and noticed XYZ so I filed a report! This has happened to me on more than one occasion! When will these morons in purchase get their act together".
Also, I never said that only an A&P can "point out something wrong with the AC". So, I hope you still accomplish due diligence with the walk around. It is our duty to report anomalies.
Besides, I thanked you....you could have skipped over the IF statement. Math much?
Lastly, how did I violate the rules of the forum? Really, I am curious. If I did, I am truly sorry and I will stop.
Last edited by Davetastic; 02-22-2017 at 07:04 AM.
02-22-2017, 07:09 AM
Ice-bagger
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 273
please, no name calling.......it violates the rules of the forum.
Seriously though, I thought it interesting that you chose to quote me saying that I don't believe unsubstantiated claims, therefore, you call me management. Do you believe everything you read? Is it not our right to question as citizens? This is not the Salem witch trials....why are we burning people at the stake for the mere questioning of claims that on their face seem to be absurd?
ab·surd
əbˈsərd,əbˈzərd/
adjective
adjective: absurd; comparative adjective: absurder; superlative adjective: absurdest
wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.
"the allegations are patently absurd"
synonyms: preposterous, ridiculous, ludicrous, farcical, laughable, risible, idiotic, stupid, foolish, silly, inane, imbecilic, insane, harebrained, cockamamie;
I am not saying these things don't happen, i.e., mx, catering, travel....but keep it real. We don't NEED to embellish.
Seriously though, I thought it interesting that you chose to quote me saying that I don't believe unsubstantiated claims, therefore, you call me management. Do you believe everything you read? Is it not our right to question as citizens? This is not the Salem witch trials....why are we burning people at the stake for the mere questioning of claims that on their face seem to be absurd?
ab·surd
əbˈsərd,əbˈzərd/
adjective
adjective: absurd; comparative adjective: absurder; superlative adjective: absurdest
wildly unreasonable, illogical, or inappropriate.
"the allegations are patently absurd"
synonyms: preposterous, ridiculous, ludicrous, farcical, laughable, risible, idiotic, stupid, foolish, silly, inane, imbecilic, insane, harebrained, cockamamie;
I am not saying these things don't happen, i.e., mx, catering, travel....but keep it real. We don't NEED to embellish.
Last edited by Davetastic; 02-22-2017 at 07:46 AM. Reason: added verbiage
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