Atlas Air Hiring
04-15-2016, 06:06 PM
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04-15-2016, 08:35 PM
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Although it might be a little early, I think it is a real concern. They could totally go into a serious whipsaw by krrping the FW separate. Have I known what I was getting into a few months ago, I would have stayed at my regional... things went south pretty quick.
04-15-2016, 10:06 PM
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Guys and Gals, I am truly sorry to hear of the latest developments but did none of you see this coming? The 121 charter/supplemental world has ALWAYS been like this. World is gone! They were around the longest, the Pan Am of the charter binness?
Here's a list from like the end of the war until today none of which are still around;
Riddle/Airlift
Saturn/Transamerica
Capitol
ONA
Mentioned World already
Metro/Tower Air
Zantop X 2
Universal
Guy America
Arista
Air America
Modern Air
A ton of outfits in Miami-Millon, Challenge, Rich, Arrow.
I mean come on. It will never change and yes, they will use Southern Air part 3 to screw you.
Here's a list from like the end of the war until today none of which are still around;
Riddle/Airlift
Saturn/Transamerica
Capitol
ONA
Mentioned World already
Metro/Tower Air
Zantop X 2
Universal
Guy America
Arista
Air America
Modern Air
A ton of outfits in Miami-Millon, Challenge, Rich, Arrow.
I mean come on. It will never change and yes, they will use Southern Air part 3 to screw you.
04-15-2016, 11:33 PM
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Even if/when they do use FW to whipsaw the Atlas/Southern group, who are they realistically going to hire to go fly those jets?
If so many people are now staying away from this Atlas/Southern mess, who would sign up for a "career" at FW... under even worse contractual conditions?
There's always going to be a handful of pilots that have their foot firmly planted on the gas pedal in the race to the bottom (Pilots that left Southern Air to fly for Western Global Airways, for example
) but how many jets can they realistically staff?
Rhetorical questions they are, but for AAWW to honestly think this type of maneuvering in the age of a pilot shortage never before seen is unbelievably foolish.
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On a side note, is this Captain Carlson's private airport, complete with it's own WATER RUNWAY by his home in upstate NY???
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
If so many people are now staying away from this Atlas/Southern mess, who would sign up for a "career" at FW... under even worse contractual conditions?
There's always going to be a handful of pilots that have their foot firmly planted on the gas pedal in the race to the bottom (Pilots that left Southern Air to fly for Western Global Airways, for example
) but how many jets can they realistically staff? Rhetorical questions they are, but for AAWW to honestly think this type of maneuvering in the age of a pilot shortage never before seen is unbelievably foolish.
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On a side note, is this Captain Carlson's private airport, complete with it's own WATER RUNWAY by his home in upstate NY???
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
04-16-2016, 12:37 AM
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On a side note, is this Captain Carlson's private airport, complete with it's own WATER RUNWAY by his home in upstate NY???
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
04-16-2016, 05:51 AM
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04-16-2016, 08:50 AM
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Even if/when they do use FW to whipsaw the Atlas/Southern group, who are they realistically going to hire to go fly those jets?
If so many people are now staying away from this Atlas/Southern mess, who would sign up for a "career" at FW... under even worse contractual conditions?
There's always going to be a handful of pilots that have their foot firmly planted on the gas pedal in the race to the bottom (Pilots that left Southern Air to fly for Western Global Airways, for example) but how many jets can they realistically staff?
Rhetorical questions they are, but for AAWW to honestly think this type of maneuvering in the age of a pilot shortage never before seen is unbelievably foolish.
------
On a side note, is this Captain Carlson's private airport, complete with it's own WATER RUNWAY by his home in upstate NY???
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
If so many people are now staying away from this Atlas/Southern mess, who would sign up for a "career" at FW... under even worse contractual conditions?
There's always going to be a handful of pilots that have their foot firmly planted on the gas pedal in the race to the bottom (Pilots that left Southern Air to fly for Western Global Airways, for example
) but how many jets can they realistically staff? Rhetorical questions they are, but for AAWW to honestly think this type of maneuvering in the age of a pilot shortage never before seen is unbelievably foolish.
------
On a side note, is this Captain Carlson's private airport, complete with it's own WATER RUNWAY by his home in upstate NY???
https://www.google.com/maps/place/As...e645d61a3a1281
AirNav: NY89 - Fairbank Farms Airport
04-17-2016, 07:18 AM
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