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Old 03-17-2016, 02:49 AM
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Atlas mgmt, as well as other mgmt teams, and a LOT of pilots have not realized how bad this pilot shortage is becoming. We are only at the edge of a huge tsunami. Atlas has gotten less interest, and less resumes at the job fairs, but it hasn't affected recruiting numbers much...yet.

DAL and UAL are thinking about ab-initio training programs. Atlas mgmt doesn't even know what ab-initio hiring is, and they wouldn't understand why DAL/UAL are considering it. Jetblue started ab-initio hiring programs in Jan 2016.
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Old 03-17-2016, 02:54 AM
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This was just posted on another thread:

"Spot on about foreign students. I am working on my cfi at a large school in Florida. Out of 400ish students there was only ONE other person in my Cfi ground school. ONE. Every flight school that I know of down here with the exception of mom and pop places are all 95% foreign (mostly Chinese) students. There are just no domestic people starting training. This shortage is going to quickly get much much worse. I have no idea where all these new pilots are supposed to come from. From my viewpoint they just don't exist."
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:39 AM
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And yet, hr turns down very qualified and experienced people. Obviously there is no shortage....
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:22 AM
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And yet, hr turns down very qualified and experienced people. Obviously there is no shortage....
It's a trickle-up shortage. First it was Cape Air and the likes, now regionals. Majors next, but likely a ways off. Ab- Initio is a smart pre-emptive move, albeit a little insensitive to announce when several qualified and eager applicants aren't getting interviews. But then again, that is a four-year training footprint.

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Old 03-17-2016, 08:24 AM
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And yet, hr turns down very qualified and experienced people. Obviously there is no shortage....
Hi! And then Atlas HR hires MIL dudes that can't find anything better in the states so they go into the YIP vortex and manage to get fired from that. So they have to go to Africa and fly who knows what around and then they show up at Atlas. Yet Atlas turns down guys with spotless records and impressive resumes.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
This was just posted on another thread:

"Spot on about foreign students. I am working on my cfi at a large school in Florida. Out of 400ish students there was only ONE other person in my Cfi ground school. ONE. Every flight school that I know of down here with the exception of mom and pop places are all 95% foreign (mostly Chinese) students. There are just no domestic people starting training. This shortage is going to quickly get much much worse. I have no idea where all these new pilots are supposed to come from. From my viewpoint they just don't exist."
Well sure! Why be a CFI when you can go to a widebody heavy with 250 hours, a small handful if which are in a Piper Seminole?
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Treehorn
What the deal with management going into classrooms and threatening the new hires? Calling them "at will employees" and what not...
True event. There are 31 new hires that can attest to this and more as witnesses.
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:26 AM
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Just found out that I will be attending the interview in New York on the 22nd. Looking forward to meeting any other interviewees there.

My info:

Been applying for a couple years.
Attended job fair: 03/11
Invite to take test: 03/15
Test passed (91%): 03/16
Invitation to interview: 03/17

1 internal rec.
About 3000 total time with just under 1000 Jet PIC. Part 135 freight.

My thanks to everyone on this forum for the helpful information and encouragement.
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Old 03-17-2016, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
Just found out that I will be attending the interview in New York on the 22nd. Looking forward to meeting any other interviewees there.

My info:

Been applying for a couple years.
Attended job fair: 03/11
Invite to take test: 03/15
Test passed (91%): 03/16
Invitation to interview: 03/17

1 internal rec.
About 3000 total time with just under 1000 Jet PIC. Part 135 freight.

My thanks to everyone on this forum for the helpful information and encouragement.

When you go, ask pointed questions such as, "why are there no line pilots participating in the interview?"

"I've heard from previous interview groups that a line pilot will come in and talk to the interviewees about life as an Atlas pilot between our interviews and over lunch, when will that pilot be here?"

"I understand that managment intends to amalgamate the Atlas and SAI contract and reduce the earning potential of the combined pilots in a looming pilot shortage, is that correct?"

I'm serious, ask those questions.

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Old 03-17-2016, 12:09 PM
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True event. There are 31 new hires that can attest to this and more as witnesses.
What the company means is that if they assist or participate in any "shenanigans" related to the amalgamation, they will be fired.
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