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Old 03-12-2016, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ExitPoint
I completely understand. Coming from K4 I'm well aware of how heated the atmosphere can become during negotiations. Especially with a management group completely unwilling to negotiate and quite frankly, stuck in the vortex that is YIP and completely oblivious to the outside world. Throw a merger in to the mix, well... I could only imagine. Atlas is more of an "airline" if you will. Its the schedule I prefer and the flying I like. They hired me. Yes, my apps are current and up to date with my preferred legacies, but worse case scenario Atlas is a place I can hang my hat.
I am of the same mind. Granted, my outlook is colored by the fact that I've only 3 1/2 years left to slip the surely bonds of earth. If I were at the other end of my career I may feel differently. At this point though, I doubt the game will be played out before I exit stage left anyway.
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SEPfield
Thank you for all the information. I have read this entire thread because I really thought Atlas was the place for me. I'm love international flying and the variety of the schedules, as long as you get the time off to recover from it. It's really depressing watching the tone of this thread go from enthusiastic encouragement to dire warnings. While I understand that forums must be taken with a grain of salt, I learned from my experience at Emirates that sometimes these forums aren't always an exaggeration and can actually be just the first dark cloud on the horizon. It's unfortunate because I think I would enjoy the Atlas lifestyle but I can't see working for sub par wages and conditions to endure what is admittedly a difficult lifestyle. Enjoyable or not

I will be turning down any offers to test or interview with Atlas until the employees are being compensated in an fair and appropriate manner that reflects the knowledge, skills, and motivation that are necessary to make an international wide body operation successful.

Good luck in your future Atlas pilots!

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Old 03-12-2016, 03:22 PM
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Any 5Y pilots that were in BNA care to add what the scene looked like at the Atlas table? I've seen two pictures with just HR reps there. Did it appear as though there was any interest in Atlas from the pilots in attendance?
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:21 PM
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Any 5Y pilots that were in BNA care to add what the scene looked like at the Atlas table? I've seen two pictures with just HR reps there. Did it appear as though there was any interest in Atlas from the pilots in attendance?
There were a few people who attended the Friday fast pass sessions (myself included). The table on the general convention floor seemed to be lightly to moderately busy throughout the time that I was around.
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:30 PM
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sandrich, why would you do that to yourself? Do you not have any self worth? If you keep showing up to be treated like a dog, they will in fact treat you like a dog-PERIOD!
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Old 03-13-2016, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8
sandrich, why would you do that to yourself? Do you not have any self worth? If you keep showing up to be treated like a dog, they will in fact treat you like a dog-PERIOD!
I completely get that, but as a probationary pilot on reserve, I don't see what other choice I have- besides calling out sick(sounds tempting) Technically it's legal per our POS contract, or lack thereof. They've got me by the balls.... They schedule these ICN turns out of CVG, cancel them, then deadhead anyone they can find halfway around the world on the cheapest bare-bones ticket they can find...
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Old 03-13-2016, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sandrich
I completely get that, but as a probationary pilot on reserve, I don't see what other choice I have- besides calling out sick(sounds tempting) Technically it's legal per our POS contract, or lack thereof. They've got me by the balls.... They schedule these ICN turns out of CVG, cancel them, then deadhead anyone they can find halfway around the world on the cheapest bare-bones ticket they can find...
No wonder Atlas bought Southern... It wasn't for the planes, it was really for the pay and work rules.

What's the timeline for the contracts to be fully amalgamated?
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Old 03-13-2016, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sandrich
I completely get that, but as a probationary pilot on reserve, I don't see what other choice I have- besides calling out sick(sounds tempting) Technically it's legal per our POS contract, or lack thereof. They've got me by the balls.... They schedule these ICN turns out of CVG, cancel them, then deadhead anyone they can find halfway around the world on the cheapest bare-bones ticket they can find...
Keep the faith and unity over there. Let's work together to make the contract going forward as good as we deserve, or better. Enough of this style of management treatment. The SAI and Atlas pilots deserve better.
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
What's the timeline for the contracts to be fully amalgamated?
There is no timeline. Both unions refuse to entertain talk about it, and both continue to negotiate separately under section 6. Remember, the company cannot simply declare that an amalgamation will happen, shutting down section 6 negotiations. Atlas/Southern pilots still have a lot of power here.
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Old 03-13-2016, 11:57 AM
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It seems that out of 13,000 posts in this thread most of them have nothing to do with "Hiring News". Perhaps it should be moved to another section.
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