dojetdriver

Sorry to hear that man

needtofly

Sooooo.... if you haven't failed any in the past five years should one answer "no" on the phone screen. If at the interview they have you fill out a questionaire and one question is "have you failed a checkride in the past five years" is one safe to assume you can answer the same "no" over the phone??

clipperskipper

Safe to say no. The telephone interview seems to follow a fairly standard format, how many flight hours in past 12 months, have you ever failed a check ride? In Atlas' case, they placed a time limit on it.

needtofly

Safe to say "no" that is good to know. Thanks

dojetdriver

My phone screen, it was asked "have you ever failed a checkride?"

You won't fill it out at the interview, you'll fill it out before they even call. That's where it's SPECIFICALLY asked about the last 5 years.

I failed the oral portion of my initial CFI 12 years ago, and answered "YES" on the phone screen. On the NHPS form I answered "NO" to the question about any failures in the last 5 years, because the CFI is the only failure I have.

The CFI failure didn't even come up in my interview.

just me

Quite honestly, I would not get too hung up about the failures or the 5-year marker. I failed a checkride at the 4.5 year marker (initial type) and still made it into the pool.

I believe Atlas has their system pretty well dialed in. (though some really good guys seem to get lost in that shuffle...)

For them it is all about points. Bad things get you fewer points and good things make up for that in points. If you have a failure that would be bad points. If you have a good explanation and let them know how you learned from it and how it made you more of the professional you are today that might get you some bonus points.
Or, there are just other real great things about you they like and that makes up for a few lacking points here or there.

Either way - don't let it stop you from applying (here or anywhere else). BUT, be honest, don't lie and have a very good explanation as to the why, how and stuff. DO NOT blame anyone besides yourself for the failure. No matter what the real story is - it just does not sound right.

And don't try to trick them with the time. Be honest, give them dates and let them decide. They will find out via PRIA anyway...


Enough of that! Good luck to all of you (us)...

DC8DRIVER

Likewise. And the rendezvous sounds good, Barrell Rider.

Interesting and varied group. Pilots ranged from an EMS chopper pilot (also lots of 727 time) a C5 pilot, a PC-12 pilot, commuter pilots, furloughed and active pilots, both genders, young, old. Pretty much all over the place.

Information here and elsewhere is all good. Nothing really new about the process or questions. It appears that they are looking for genuinely good, nice people who are solid pilots with relatively clean records who REALLY want to work there.

My best advice is to do your homework. Study up on the place if you really want to work there. If you don't REALLY REALLY want the job with them, they will find out and wash you out to avoid wasting their time (and money) and yours.

During the intro, they quoted to us that they had: "4000 resumes, 1500 reviewed, 275 interviewed, and 85 new hires" in the "past year"... That's something like 1 hired for every 3.2 interviewed. Sobering way to start an interview day.

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EllisCoastal

The 90 day wait is accurate. The 90 day clock starts on day one of training, not after your checkride or any other event. I don't recall how much it is for a family, but for a single person I pay around $75 a month plus some for dental.

With regards to COBRA. COBRA for me was outrageously expensive. I have had a lapse in insurance because of a job transition twice now, and the best thing for me was temporary insurance from a normal health insurance provider. COBRA wanted $350 a month just for me and coverage for 90 days put me over $1000! I went to ehealthinsurance.com and ended up paying around $100 a month. Hope this helps.

Getter

I think its 90 days from date of hire then starts on the 1st day of the following month. I think it took me 115 days. Health Insurance wise.... best to get a class date at the end of the month.

744driver

I'm not sure "getting a class date at the end of the month" is anyone's choice but Atlas. If you are offered a class, you take it. Don't let even one number go for the sake of spending an extra month's insurance...that makes no sense.