Brokenwind

Hmmm...

The glass is obviously always half empty...

No contradictions there. Stating that as bleak as some posters make it out there is still a semblance of leverage and a good chance of something better than what the doom and gloomers suggest, providing the group is unified and can stand together.

If you seek contradictions, the recent pages are full of it. My outlook is cautiously optimistic for the (combined) Atlas pilots following a determined effort and standing their ground.

You obviously don't have much stock in what the (combined) Atlas pilots are trying to accomplish, much to the success of managements divisive tactics. If you do, perhaps look at what can be achieved by striving for a unified goal and look long and deep at what could be a positive outcome, seen from the pilot's perspective.

At no point is it implied that the company is screwed but the sky isn't falling. Don't put words in my mouth.

White Cap

I agree. Some of our captains also think that putting in an app to another carrier means that they will call you next week, begging for your interest. Fix what you can here, if you leave in the future, so be it.

IV, I also try to get everyone up to speed with what is happening at the committee level. There is a lot of misinformation. We will get there eventually, despite company rhetoric. A lot of reputations are riding on this contract, and we have a decent war chest. It is funny, I can't stand the negativity, but then I can't stop looking at this thread.

BYOB, we will see you on Monday at 3pm.

Treehorn

Well, I'd like to see our guys stop hoeing themselves out and flying 25 days a month. Then I'd have a rosier perspective.

atpcliff

The new contract WILL be better. It will not be any moving ALL the pilots at Atlas/Southern to the Southern contract, as some pilots have suggested. If something even close to this happened, there would be SO MANY pilots leaving, and SO FEW new hires, that the company would be forced to change it's tune in short order.

BUT, incrementally better, or REALLY better???

That is the multi-million dollar question.

Treehorn

Which decade will it be signed is the real question.

dsmith3631

I think the key is that it really doesn't matter when it is signed. If you are so sure any TA will be worse, isn't it better to never sign another further concessionary contract? If we are ALL IN, and refuse to accept anything but an improvement, we still operate under current terms until a new agreement is signed. That is far better than any concessions or amalgamated contract as has been suggested, and those who wish can pursue their dream job elsewhere in the meantime.

A bird in hand... we are here now, so make it better for us all and those who will come in the future.

Kahuna1900

Interviewed 1/21
747 3/14/16

Whaledriver

You need to actually read the contract and then understand that this is not an option. We come to terms in nine months or we go to arbitration, no self help, no not talking to the company.

WTFover

Nine months AFTER presenting the company with an integrated seniority list. This may be our one arrow in the quiver.

AboveMins

Hey everybody- noob here. So, after searching this thread, it appears that going to a job fair is key to getting the test. Any idea what the job fair encounter is like, or advice on how to prepare for it? I have a slot with Atlas at WAI next month, and want to make sure I don't squander the opportunity.