Gnaw

Seems the misunderstanding was resolved....nothing to see here folks

CL65driver

Sorry about being short, folks... kind of in a bad spot right now, and all sorts of nastiness pushed me into arsehole mode, and stupid me took it out on this thread. Totally unprofessional, I know. Sorry again, I'm gonna take the time to read through the thread on my commute, and appreciate all the good info. If it's possible- maybe a mod can delete my idiotic post. Now, back to doing battle with crew scheduling. John, if I ever encounter you on an overnight- the drinks are on me, I promise.

Verbal

I'm sure we've all been there, at some point or another..

Anyway, Gateway Travel is essentially company provided travel to and from your residence to your assigned base (as long as your residence is more than 130 miles from your base). The company will provide a positive space ticket and hotel accommodations (at your base) prior to the report time of your trip, but on your own time. Your Gateway airport should be located within 130 miles from your residence, and from what I understand, be on the list of airports that are currently designated as Gateways (approved by the Company and Union).
There are tax implications to utilizing the Gateway airfare, and I'm sure other details.. but that should give you the picture.
Oh yeah, I think I recall you mentioning that you live in the SanFran area.. I believe SFO is on the list.

Again, I do suggest you take some time to page through this thread, as there is some great information - the good, the bad, and the ugly. I think it's all beneficial if you're serious about working for Atlas.

Time for a beer?
Cheers..

CL65driver

Thanks, Verbal... beer? Pfft... bring me a barrel if your finest bourbon!

BYOB

Let me help you out. Gateway means you live wherever you want, just like any airline, but rather than commute and jumpseat to/from your domicile, Atlas buys you a ticket so that you have a guaranteed seat. They also pick up the tab for the hotel room in domicile. If you don't want to read through 13,000+ replies, and you're taking a lot of offense to people pointing you in the right direction, Atlas may not be for you. You have to be somewhat self-sufficient at Atlas, especially when you're on the other side of the globe without a cell signal.

Think NetJets if you need more info about Gateway travel. But honestly, do the work and read the thread, all of it. Everyone else did, and every few months someone comes along and asks a question that has been asked and answered several times on here. Those that have been here (this thread) tire of it.

thesandbox

Just another former ACMI guy giving some perspective. I am now in my fourth year at Atlas on the 767 and also showed only $78k and change on my W2 for last year working 2 days more a month than my last carrier, Ryan International. Our old pre-2004 cargo schedule was 6 on 9 off and beat the way they schedule this DHL stuff hands down. Our AMC and charter flying was all done with blocks of 6-10 days on with equal time off. Our soft pay gave routine credits over 80 hrs a month for only 14/15 days of work and was making more due to that. We are a salaried pilot here with 17 days at their whim. I routinely bid 60 day lines just so I don't have to be gone 17 days in a row. I figured a few extra days per pairing wouldn't matter as much but for the way we are paid and treated here with little QOL it is way too long to be away from home and family, especially with lack of other forms of compensation. I even had a 100% 401k prior and only 50% match here for a listed company with soaring profits. I used to love this type of flying and still get glimpses of that now and again but they are making it harder and harder here to justify it and no way going forward do the current conditions justify continuing this status quo into the future going forward. I never bought into any hope and change 8 years ago and don't buy it around here either. Would love to be proven wrong but actions speak louder than words. ALL IN.

Twin Wasp

Both San Fran and Oakland are on the list of approved gateways but not SJC. The company will add the cost of a ticket to your pay, compute tax withholding on the grossed up amount (since it is a benefit to you) and then deduct the cost of the ticket from your pay.

ANC is the most junior for 400 F/Os. The bottom PAE, HSV and CVG F/Os are currently 7 month people. MIA is 10 months, ORD right at a year, LAX 13, JFK 15 and IAH a year and a half. Folks were getting out of ANC before completing OE.

Talon1011

Very true. This thread is probably one of the most valuable sources of information for an airline out there. For the most part folks do strive to stick to task and not veer off track. Occasionally it does morph into something like Flightinfo.com for a day or two but that usually fixes itself in short order. Truly, the answer to just about anything one could ask is contained within. To everyone checking on for the first time: Please do pay attention to the descriptions of life in this ACMI business and be honest in answering the question if it's a fit for you and equally as important, for your family. Many have brushed over that spot and are shocked when the 17 day patterns, daily schedule changes and Crew Scheduling shenanigans actually do materialize. If you're the kind that can roll with changes and have a sense of adventure then this will be a good fit. If those things get under your skin then something with at least the pretense of structure would be a better choice. That's not meant to be at all discouraging to anyone but to point out that a bit of introspection early on will save a lot of heartache later.

DoomedTX

Sometimes.

I just finished my first year and told the wife to unpack my opinions

During that time I flew to ANC almost every pattern and flew to HSV twice when I moved there. I never flew back from ANC (always deadheaded somewhere on Atlas) and have flown back from HSV twice. In that year I haven't been imputed for a single hotel stay, and got only one imputed ticket to ANC. I've heard various theories on what causes you to get "on the radar" for imputed income, but they are only educated guesses. The CA I flew with today said he gets hit every time. YMWV. Not "may vary," but certainly "will vary."

Treehorn

Mia would take 6 months maybe. Mas y menos