sailingfun

Stuff not clicking in any training program is often the norm. It comes together before the checkride. I certainly would have stuck around until they asked me to leave. I don't think it would change your ability to get hired in the future. They might also have been willing to provide extra time. Very few airlines won't if you have a good attitude.

captjns

There is no shame in deciding to withdraw form any endeavour if the outcome will ultimately result in a true unsatisfactory training result.

The resume needs to match the application... and the application must match the resume. After all the resume is an 8 1/2 X 11 piece of paper with alpha numerics. The resume is not meant to be a novel. Info should be limited to data points relevant to the job being sought after, work history and personal achievements.

I DO RECOMMEND, however, the OP seek the advice of a reputable airline coaching provider how to proceed forward. The coach will provide recommendations on how to take owership of the voluntary withdrawal.

TiredSoul

Its not the action that needs to be explained it’s the cause.
“The coach” will get you through the next interview but not the next training program.
I’m kinda done here.
You’re a PIC on a PC12 carrying passengers for hire. Did that just happen organically without training and check rides ?

Saafer

If you quit during training, PRD will reflect this as an UNSAT. The FAA are trying to resolve this issue. The airlines are aware of this.

NZpilot

SIC. In hindsight upgrading to PIC would have made more sense than trying to make the leap to the right seat of a 73. Thanks, appreciate your input.

hercretired

its all gonna work out man. contact Spitfire Consulting or Cheryl Cage and get their expert opinion.

do NOT lie on any applications

did I say it will all work out?

it will

PilotdadCJDCMD

If you have a good attitude and work hard then it's all going to work out. Regroup, learn, and start again. 5 years from now this will be a distant memory that you can chuckle at. All of us have have fallen short in our lives and careers at some point, anyone who says they haven't is a liar.

JohnBurke

One is never obligated to cite all one's employment on the resume. Mine would be several pages long if I did that. The only purpose of a resume is to gete an interview. It's not a job application. The original poster will need to fill out a job application anywhere he goes, and that application will include his work history and a brief reason for leaving each job. There is no valid reason to put any employment on the resume which does not paint him in the best light, and say "hire me."

He will not be waiting for a background check for his employment in training at Atlas, to be reevealed. That information will be disclosed both in the application process, and in the interview.

He has no reason to list that information on his resume, unless his work experience or career highlights are so limited that he's got nothing else to put on the resume. Only put things on the resume which will help. If one is applying to an airline, list relevant experience. If one is applying to a utility operator, that's a very differeent background, and more relevant information might be better tailored for that operator. The resume is little more than a knock on the door, and any information that requires an explanation ought not be what one leads with when introducing himself. "Hi, I'm Bob, a former alcoholic, how are you today, sir? Alrighty then..." Perhaps just "Hi, I'm Bob, how are you today, sir?" Find out if the employer wants to talk, before offering any more.

Resumes list career highlights and helpful work experience that makes one a more desirable candidate. One does not generally list job offers. I don't believe I have ever seen a resume that listed job offers as experience. One also doesn't list one's divorce or time spent working on the family boat, or information about one's socks. List work history or experience that gets one an interview.

There is nothing hidden. A full work history, including the training history, will come into play with the job applicaiton. A resume is not expected to be a complete history; it's a quick rundown on one's qualifications for the job: certification, flight time, career highlights, etc. If one was involved in an aircraft mishap, one wouldn't put that in big letters at the top of the resume, but one would explain that later, and most applications ask that question. Likewise, most applications ask about training failures; while this is not a training failure, it does require more than a byline on a resume, and the job application is the place to put that experience and a truncated explanation (which can be expanded upon in person, if an interview is forthcoming).

bluespoon

You must be kidding right? This is terrible advice. Of course he has to put this on his resume. It's a flying job and not to mention he went though a major training event with an air carrier. If you are a recruiter at an airline or any other air carrier, wouldn't you like to know that he has worked at Atlas and that he has been through at least partial training? It would be a major red flag if they see it later without his disclosure.

bluespoon

Honestly you really have nothing to hide. A Pc12 SIC shouldn't be in 737 class unless they really understand what they're getting themselves into. But of course any PC12 SIC would take that class if offered so I don't blame you, and a good future recruiter would understand that. Definitely list that on your resume, at the very least you've seen major airline training. I wouldn't worry about it too much, just keep flying and focus on trying to pass training next time. As you've seen since you actually got a 737 job with just SIC PC12 time, if it's ment to be it's ment to be, you're getting the job anyways so always be honest in your applications.