TiredSoul

HR is just a numbers game, you either meet the magic number today or you don’t.
Hours wise he may make the cut but experience wise?
HR is not the “will this guy make it filter”.
You’re not incorrect but if we’re both wrong that doesn’t make a right.
Let’s agree to disagree.
My vote is for some 121 experience prior to applying.
A training fail or voluntary withdrawal permanently stays on your record.
Teaching the part how to fly a jet is not part of IOE.

C17B74

Honestly, you both bring great points on both sides of the fence. Now they have to decide for themselves based on great advice from the both of you. Parents can't do your life for you, but they had better prepare you or at least give sensible advice. We don't want these folks to fail we want them to succeed and in the end the ball is in their court. We've all seen the successes and failures of rushed judgment in life and the consequences can be minimal or at times fatal in every endeavor. Anyone whose questions parallel the answers given by Astray and Tired Soul must understand they are looking out for you. Everyone has "OneLife" it's yours, do your best!!!

Elevation

Tired makes a good point. I assume anyone who's applying feels like they are ready. But, as Tired says, there's not a whole lot of sympathy if you over-extend and screw yourself up. Know yourself. If you are confident in your abilities, apply. This is complex mosaiac of tasks, each of which is a simple challenge that anybody can wrap their heads around. It's just placement and prioritization of these tasks that wraps people up. This is why some people with limited experience succeed and others, with years of wide-body, international jet time struggle.

If you're coming out of an air ambulance background or single-pilot 135 night freight background, you're already putting your puzzle pieces together and figuring out what's important and what can wait for a given trip.

One of the many paradoxes of this industry is that you have to be enough of a confident jerk (I say jerk, because there will always be someone who will tell you you're unqualified to hold your seat. It doesn't matter who you are or what you've done.) to know you can take a shot at something but humble enough to trim yourself back to know when you need ease away from a bad course of action. I say take the shot, learn the crap, skip the fire pit and breakfast clubs.

MELedMel

How did you end up doing medevac if you have 2000hr as of now? CAMTS requires 2000hrs TT 1k PIC

For atlas, I don't think you will have any issues with the flying or decision making coming from single pilot IFR world, the issue will be "cooperate to graduate" don't ask or wonder why they do training things the way they do, don't get bent out of shape over the non CFI inexperienced sim guys, it's procedural memory stuff. If you managed to not get yourself killed single pilot turbine, you'll be fine

Based on the hiring I have seen, you probably can get any fleet you want, your issue will be lack of a ATP, however they are even giving those out

Apply and see where it goes

BrazilBusDriver

This debate is all academic for everyone but OP, but I think that OP would do well to go to one of the Atlas airframes that are geared towards new hires. We had a couple CFIs in my 767 class. They made it. The 737, from what I've heard (but not what I personally experienced a few years ago) is just as geared towards new hires with no jet background these days, if not more so. That said, my 767 sim partner didn't make it and he had a fair amount of Part 91 jet time. He's not flying the last I heard, so the danger of getting bounced from the 121 world is real. I acknowledge that. I also agree with the statement that "you've got to be arrogant enough to believe you belong here."

I would think two years in a 737 or 767 doing domestic amazon flying will do a lot for OP's proficiency and confidence. And it's two years seniority (and just as importantly, experience) towards 747 ANC with domestic FAA NAS training wheels on. Atlas locks up a pilot that presumably wants to be there for the long haul. Seems like a win-win-win in my book.

MELedMel

I'm confused so a CFI made it but a jet guy didn't in the 76 class?

What was the CFIs background, I mean I'm typed in few jets and have flown a ton of stuff and I'm a CFI, or by CFI did you mean to at he went from flying 172s and the like as a CFI to atlas?


I would say if the jet guy was used to more streamlined FSI type training, the crazy paint mixer Atlas training program could throw one for a loop, presuming he didn't just self eject

Elevation

Stuff like that happens a lot. The reasons are many. A lot of the new CFI types go all-out in terms of effort. Somebody on their twelfth company is often burnt out. Not saying that's what happened in any particular case, but it's not uncommon to see experienced people struggle while inexperienced people don't. I also want to be clear in that I'm not saying experience is bad, etc. I'm just saying the pitfalls from one background to another are different, but they're there for everybody.

astray

A CFI that's been flying a 6 pack might have better chances at the 767 than a jet guy that's been staring at glass for years tbh..

MELedMel

for many, myself included, glass or steam its all the same thing

C17B74

Effort goes a long way with Atlas and it guarantees nothing, but it is truly evident to the instructors who prepared and put the time in and those that didn't. Sometimes hurdles are too great in life, but never give up and re-attack. In the end it's an individual sport to be typed, but cooperate and graduate goes the distance. Ask questions, get answers and apply - work the crap out of the sim. Unfortunately as Elevation mentioned, burning out is a thing. Hopefully, the hunger still exists or at least recharge extremely well before entering most anything.

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent." Calvin Coolidge

As said before nothing is guaranteed, but at least do better than giving it a shot - Do your Best!