Real world income, no word soup
09-06-2023, 08:24 PM
#22
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
09-06-2023, 11:02 PM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: 747
Posts: 362
Yep. Agreed. On track for around 204k. Had full month off for vacation and have only picked up a couple of overtime trips this year. Also on year 3 pay since March.
09-10-2023, 07:58 AM
#24
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 31
Sounds great what y'all are making. Can you share how many hours you guys are flying versus crediting and if/how much of that is hazard pay?
09-10-2023, 09:00 AM
#25
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
So just leave them out of the equation.
(Days gone - 2) x 4.85 = 70 hrs + $1,000 Per Diem = monthly gross income.
Don’t count on being able to pick up Open Time in your first year.
You may but just don’t count on it.
09-10-2023, 09:50 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 31
There are very few hazard pay flights remaining and they’re only on the 74 fleet.
So just leave them out of the equation.
(Days gone - 2) x 4.85 = 70 hrs + $1,000 Per Diem = monthly gross income.
Don’t count on being able to pick up Open Time in your first year.
You may but just don’t count on it.
So just leave them out of the equation.
(Days gone - 2) x 4.85 = 70 hrs + $1,000 Per Diem = monthly gross income.
Don’t count on being able to pick up Open Time in your first year.
You may but just don’t count on it.
09-10-2023, 11:03 AM
#27
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
There are always exceptions.
Also an outbase nets you 144 hrs credit and $2,000 per Diem.
That’s $25k gross for the month.
Two outbase a year is $50k.
So your $180k plus two outbases equals $230K.
Also some overtime trips can be very lucrative at 30-60hrs credit.
Oubase is basically a 30 day reserve line from an outstation.
There is money to be made but you need to hussle and flow.
Notice this body by Atlas on this ORD 3 year 74 FO
Also an outbase nets you 144 hrs credit and $2,000 per Diem.
That’s $25k gross for the month.
Two outbase a year is $50k.
So your $180k plus two outbases equals $230K.
Also some overtime trips can be very lucrative at 30-60hrs credit.
Oubase is basically a 30 day reserve line from an outstation.
There is money to be made but you need to hussle and flow.
Notice this body by Atlas on this ORD 3 year 74 FO
09-10-2023, 11:17 AM
#29
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2022
Posts: 31
There are always exceptions.
Also an outbase nets you 144 hrs credit and $2,000 per Diem.
That’s $25k gross for the month.
Two outbase a year is $50k.
So your $180k plus two outbases equals $230K.
Also some overtime trips can be very lucrative at 30-60hrs credit.
Oubase is basically a 30 day reserve line from an outstation.
Also an outbase nets you 144 hrs credit and $2,000 per Diem.
That’s $25k gross for the month.
Two outbase a year is $50k.
So your $180k plus two outbases equals $230K.
Also some overtime trips can be very lucrative at 30-60hrs credit.
Oubase is basically a 30 day reserve line from an outstation.
09-10-2023, 11:24 AM
#30
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
Oh wow, that's a fat credit. I was just curious as to what sort of credits you guys could get to pull in that kind of money. I didn't realize some OT can go up to 60 hours. Just a couple of those a year and you have a big bonus. Out basing doesn't sound fun unless you can get a month off. I appreciate the info.
Just be realistic about it. To make good money, you work more days than your peers. And when junior, OT is more about luck than anything else.
There are times when Outbasing works. I did a bunch of house improvements last year and had to choose between living with the in-laws for a month, or making enough money to pay for those improvements that month. It was an easy decision.
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