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03-24-2022, 11:32 AM

#131

Wonderoats

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How much flying does the 737 do? Average time on reserve / average credit for lines?

03-24-2022, 11:46 AM

#132

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Originally Posted by Wonderoats

How much flying does the 737 do? Average time on reserve / average credit for lines?

25-45h, and min guarantee to low 70s for credit.
Reserve used to pay well, but nowadays either no reserve lines due to lack of FOs or just a couple of lines, that will see added flying right away.

03-24-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CRJJ

25-45h, and min guarantee to low 70s for credit.
Reserve used to pay well, but nowadays either no reserve lines due to lack of FOs or just a couple of lines, that will see added flying right away.

Any way to pick up more given the lack of FOs?

03-24-2022, 11:51 AM

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I have seen the "outbase" term being used here as one way to get for more credits. Tried to search to understand how that works at Atlas but couldn't grasp the idea of it very well. How would the outbase works to get more credit?

03-24-2022, 12:02 PM

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Word search Out-base
https://docs.iap2750.org/cba/cba_final_09102021.pdf
Article 25 and Article 3.

03-24-2022, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57

Word search Out-base
https://docs.iap2750.org/cba/cba_final_09102021.pdf
Article 25 and Article 3.

Good move. 👆👍😄

03-24-2022, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57

Word search Out-basehttps://docs.iap2750.org/cba/cba_final_09102021.pdfArticle 25 and Article 3.

Good reading. So what would be the outbase line availability for someone willing to do it nowadays?

03-24-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Clcoregon

Good reading. So what would be the outbase line availability for someone willing to do it nowadays?

No idea. Right now I would presume Junior as overtime opportunities are aplenty. You will without a doubt make more on overtime for the same amount do days. The only thing Outbasing will benefit someone is for guaranteed minimum hours. But for the time being with Article 33 pay we are getting guys guaranteed 200 hr bid lines or near about from what I've read. Why anyone would Out-base is beyond me.

03-24-2022, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57

I understand. But I'm not cou tong with the article 33. If I get in next month and take 4 month of training I may never see the article 33.So I need to understand how available the system is for me to work with it living in the PNW....and possible moving to Florida next year. Family and mortgage are things that make you want to have everything figure out correctly. I'm lucky to have a very independent wife.

03-25-2022, 10:12 AM

#140

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Originally Posted by Clcoregon

You shouldn't be budgetting on the assumption you'll be getting VX or Outbase. Budget for Min Guarantee. If you make more and want to pay off said debt faster and upgrade to a better lifestyle. More power to you. But if you don't budget to live on the minimum you're setting yourself up for negative outcome. What if the entire economy goes into recession and people's purhcasing power takes a dive? Not saying we wouldn't get to the point of furloughing to stay afloat. But it has happened a couple times at Atlas. So it could happen again. Or the very least we'd all be barely flying and not making over guarantee.