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02-14-2022, 02:50 PM
#122
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 728
1) An extension properly assigned is meant to "protect the trip pairing" (CBA 25 O) that you've been assigned. It's not supposed to be used to assign random flying that pops up (ad hoc charter, e.g.). And we should fight that every time it happens
2) Same with Reserve. A properly practiced Reserve program would be there to cover things like sick calls and other operational complications (transportation break down). Again, random flying that just spontaneously appears, like an ad hoc charter, could be thrown into Open Time.
However, ref: my comments above about the Scheduling dept being deliberately run in a dishonest manner and without sufficient transparency for the union to oversee.
In conclusion, it's true, no one is forced to pick up open time on their days off.
02-14-2022, 06:58 PM
#123
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: sandwich
Posts: 96
Well, until there's more transparency in the Scheduling dept the whole question of fairness is probably a waste of time. There will be nothing fair from that dept as long as it continues to be run the way it is.
I don't agree with this on two levels:
1) An extension properly assigned is meant to "protect the trip pairing" (CBA 25 O) that you've been assigned. It's not supposed to be used to assign random flying that pops up (ad hoc charter, e.g.). And we should fight that every time it happens
2) Same with Reserve. A properly practiced Reserve program would be there to cover things like sick calls and other operational complications (transportation break down). Again, random flying that just spontaneously appears, like an ad hoc charter, could be thrown into Open Time.
However, ref: my comments above about the Scheduling dept being deliberately run in a dishonest manner and without sufficient transparency for the union to oversee.
In conclusion, it's true, no one is forced to pick up open time on their days off.
I don't agree with this on two levels:
1) An extension properly assigned is meant to "protect the trip pairing" (CBA 25 O) that you've been assigned. It's not supposed to be used to assign random flying that pops up (ad hoc charter, e.g.). And we should fight that every time it happens
2) Same with Reserve. A properly practiced Reserve program would be there to cover things like sick calls and other operational complications (transportation break down). Again, random flying that just spontaneously appears, like an ad hoc charter, could be thrown into Open Time.
However, ref: my comments above about the Scheduling dept being deliberately run in a dishonest manner and without sufficient transparency for the union to oversee.
In conclusion, it's true, no one is forced to pick up open time on their days off.
02-15-2022, 05:59 AM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 728
Your interpretation is more about how you think or wish things should be versus reality and legality. ‘Open time’ is nothing more than a flight or reserve window without a crewmember assigned. That can be put out for open time to be voluntarily picked up or it can be placed onto my X days at the end of my reserve pattern. I didn’t volunteer for it, I can’t refuse it, and now I’m forced to fly this ‘open time’ on my days off. I understand the protections for primary line holders that prevent extensions to cover ‘open time’ but they simply don’t apply to reserve line holders.
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