Originally Posted by CRJJ

Anybody taking a job at Atlas should count on being away for 17-19 days, simple as that.
unless you live in base, then you’d see your bed a few more nights each month, depending on the base/fleet.
But gateway travel plus your trip…..17-19, extensions do happen every now and then..

Originally Posted by HPIC

5 or 6 of them do. Seems to be a conversion about every 5-6 weeks. They initially planned one every 3 weeks but it hasn’t played out that way for whatever reason.

Originally Posted by Elevation

747: most money. Most schedule changes. Leave the country on day 1 and return on day 17. 90% overseas. Hard on your body. OK pay. Bad QOL.

777 (from what I gather): DHL. Laps around the planet to the same places. More stable schedule. Mellow folk.

767: junior flying is domestic Amazon and DHL. Senior flying is international DHL and AMC pax. Week on week off (10 days on or 6 days on). Not so hard on your body. Bad pay. Decent QOL.

737 (from what I gather) Hang out around CVG lots. Fly 20 hours a month.

Some southern person can correct/update me. Hope this helps you select a fleet or class date.

Originally Posted by Buzologic

The way i look at it you get 4.85 hours pay for every duty day so assuming you gone 17 days it's 82.5 hours. I mean I assume you come there to work and for them to want you to work and not sit at home every month so expecting min guarantee once training is finished is not something i d expect (though it can always happen for whatever reason).
Other assumption is 17 days away from base not having layover in the US, though unlikely it won't influence to total amount that much)

So for the 747 which is the highest hourly paid fleet you'd already reach your target of 9k a month after tax without any over time after 12 months.


First year During training 94,76 (Hourly) x 64(hours) = 6064,64(gross salary) x 0.7(tax) = 4245,25 + 30(days) x 24(hours) x2.85(dollar per day) = 6297,25 after tax
First year (assuming normal year 1 salary after training) 120.51 x 82.5 = 9942,07 x 0.7 = 6959,45 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 8387,45 after tax
Second year 137,10 x 82.5 = 11310,75 x 0.7 = 7917,52 + 17 x 24 x 3.5 = 9345,52 after tax

Hope it helps, other can chime in how much a 4 day overtime trip on the 747 gets you cause that i don t know

Edit: This is just ment to give a ball park and that you can get to your target a lot faster then you might think

Originally Posted by tomorrowland

I think my wife is okay with the pay for the first couple of years, but she wasn't so happy to hear that I will be gone for like 16 or 20 days out of the month. Would you happen to know what's the typical layover hours at ICN? and how often you could get those schedules as a newly hired fo?

Originally Posted by Buzologic

Awesome! Thanks for the clarification so first year salary once out of training and working would be 7291,- after tax the first year excluding any over times. A shame but something one can budget for with saving the first year if needed. However the second year still meets the mentioned goal of 9k a month (even without overtime assuming 17 days away from base)

Originally Posted by atpcliff

I am on the 747. I just went through my ecrew schedule starting 1Oct2021. I worked 129 days, about, in the last year. That works out to less than 11 days per month working, on average. I would NOT count on 17x4.85 as your min pay for the month...

Originally Posted by Buzologic

Thanks for all the input guys. What I get from it all is that Atlas is what you want to make from it. You can bid working as little days as possible and not picking up and over time (resulting on lots of time off with a lower salary)
OR working lots of extra days (resulting in fewer days off and higher salary). I think (and while this is me guessing, feel free to disagree) the average is somewhere around the line of those 82 hours a month.

That being said always make sure you can make due with minimum guarantee cause if something happens that might be all you getting but for savings purposes i'd wager it's safe to say you can be making a bit more.

Originally Posted by Buzologic

I'm pretty sure i specifically mention with every calculation assuming you are out of base full 24 hours for x amount of days. If people read that differently thats on them to be honest. The calculations are on 17 days away from base period. Don't really see how you could interpet that differently. Calculations are thus max pay and realkity might be few hours below that when starting late and coming back early.

So what about the extra pay is that 18 hours for a 4 days trip or 18 + trip rig?