Atlas Air Fleet Type differences
06-02-2022, 06:53 PM
#481
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,633
You are not ad-hoc reserve because you don't have to answer the phone. You need to check your schedule when you land, and before your pre-duty rest begins.
They can change it all they want, but since you don't have to check it, who cares.
06-02-2022, 07:23 PM
#482
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 119
I am not sure why people seem to age faster on the 747. Looking at the seniority list, most retirements are from that fleet too, so most seem to make it up to 65 just fine.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
I’ve flown on both 747 and 767 fleets. The 74 was far more exhausting, it’s not even close. The last year on the 74 was 740 hours of block versus 218 hours of block on the 76 in ‘21. The Amazon flying is a joke at 1 leg a day in most cases followed by 24-36 hour layover. The JFK 767 guys have longer flights but they spend most of their time in first class positioning for an operating leg. Not uncommon for 12 day patterns with 2 or 3 operating legs for JFK 76 guys. That’s why it’s senior. To each their own but if you like your time at home and family the 74 works way too hard and the jet lag recovery once you finally get home can be rough.
06-02-2022, 07:32 PM
#483
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Posts: 119
I am not sure why people seem to age faster on the 747. Looking at the seniority list, most retirements are from that fleet too, so most seem to make it up to 65 just fine.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
I personally haven’t felt the need for a nap on a 2 hour flight.
06-03-2022, 10:12 AM
#485
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
As HPIC mentioned and I echoed earlier it was a fleet commonality discussion. Talked to several check folks during these revisions and it’s a dead issue at the moment. Anything is game though here at Atlas. Personally would have rather just ripped off the entire band aid than create phases to achieve commonality. My reasoning was if the right seat was flipping all switches then not being able to taxi was the last straw, time to move left. Just being sarcastic. My early AF days we couldn’t steer from the right. Honestly, no wheel/tiller existed on the right so end of discussion.
Last time I checked we only fly one type at a time unless we go through training and testing and get to fly one other type for at least 18 months.
WTF
06-03-2022, 12:05 PM
#486
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
As HPIC mentioned and I echoed earlier it was a fleet commonality discussion. Talked to several check folks during these revisions and it’s a dead issue at the moment. Anything is game though here at Atlas. Personally would have rather just ripped off the entire band aid than create phases to achieve commonality. My reasoning was if the right seat was flipping all switches then not being able to taxi was the last straw, time to move left. Just being sarcastic. My early AF days we couldn’t steer from the right. Honestly, no wheel/tiller existed on the right so end of discussion.
Last time I checked we only fly one type at a time unless we go through training and testing and get to fly one other type for at least 18 months.
WTF
06-03-2022, 01:17 PM
#487
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 777 Left window seat
Posts: 685
drifted away over the years. The guy that formerly ran MIA used to say “Boeing builds airplanes they don’t know how to fly them.” He’s no longer around for various reasons as you are well aware.
Liability is a powerful driving force for a corporation.
06-03-2022, 02:08 PM
#488
All is fine at .79
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Position: Paahlot
Posts: 4,225
Then again I’m sure Ethiopian and Lion Air followed Boeing procedures.
It just feels like change for the sake of change rather then improvements.
06-03-2022, 05:39 PM
#489
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,583
Yup, this is how it feels. Ideally, i wish the company would have made the transition fully instead of what they did Rev 14…. It didn’t make sense to roll out Rev 14 if the end goal was Boeing procedures at tue end of the day.
06-03-2022, 07:52 PM
#490
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2018
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 10
Check out the 777 details I posted on page 20. The only Article 33 (premium pay) station we have left is HKG...everything else is still accurate.
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