Atlas Air Fleet Type differences
05-31-2022, 09:44 PM
#451
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At my previous airline I was commuter, and I could hold lines that started and ended in the afternoon. That was very easy. When I was on the 747 (mostly cargo) schedule changes and 24hr layovers were pretty taxing. On the 767 I usually get a few days in Germany or Bulgaria to chill out before my next flight.
My point is I don't think one type of flying is worse/better. It's really on the schedule and schedule reliability.
While I've been here people seem to age faster on the 747.
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05-31-2022, 10:03 PM
#452
In a land of unicorns
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Maybe I did? I fly mostly passengers at this place. Flew passengers before this at the regionals. I wouldn't say this is more fatiguing than the regionals, but I wouldn't say passenger flying is more fatiguing than cargo either. It's really the schedules and schedule reliability.
At my previous airline I was commuter, and I could hold lines that started and ended in the afternoon. That was very easy. When I was on the 747 (mostly cargo) schedule changes and 24hr layovers were pretty taxing. On the 767 I usually get a few days in Germany or Bulgaria to chill out before my next flight.
My point is I don't think one type of flying is worse/better. It's really on the schedule and schedule reliability.
While I've been here people seem to age faster on the 747.
At my previous airline I was commuter, and I could hold lines that started and ended in the afternoon. That was very easy. When I was on the 747 (mostly cargo) schedule changes and 24hr layovers were pretty taxing. On the 767 I usually get a few days in Germany or Bulgaria to chill out before my next flight.
My point is I don't think one type of flying is worse/better. It's really on the schedule and schedule reliability.
While I've been here people seem to age faster on the 747.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
05-31-2022, 10:28 PM
#453
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I am not sure why people seem to age faster on the 747. Looking at the seniority list, most retirements are from that fleet too, so most seem to make it up to 65 just fine.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
It is the most relaxing flying out there, great bunk area and long layovers. The 767 right now has more variety, but when you can't rest properly mid-flight, that will definitely take a toll on your body.
As for the 747 and aging, my theory is catering. As you say, plenty are making it to 65 on the 747. Also that fleet is more senior, so who knows how accurate my observations are?
05-31-2022, 10:32 PM
#454
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The passenger 767s aren't bad for ten hours or so. The rest facilities aren't great, but they work. The freighters are a bear on longer flights that require augmentation. Flying CVG-ICN on the 747 was way less tiring than doing a few 767 HNL trips.
As for the 747 and aging, my theory is catering. As you say, plenty are making it to 65 on the 747. Also that fleet is more senior, so who knows how accurate my observations are?
As for the 747 and aging, my theory is catering. As you say, plenty are making it to 65 on the 747. Also that fleet is more senior, so who knows how accurate my observations are?
You can make some decent meals out of the catering from most stations, toss the bread and make a keto friendly salad bowl, or something like that.
Some stations like MIA are godawful, but most of the time you can make it work. The temptation is there though, they cater more food than any crewmember can physically eat, yet some seem to try.
06-01-2022, 03:00 AM
#455
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Haven't seen the 767 pax configuration, but the cargo with longer flights seem like a nightmare. 777 isn't any better. The 747 is fantastic.
You can make some decent meals out of the catering from most stations, toss the bread and make a keto friendly salad bowl, or something like that.
Some stations like MIA are godawful, but most of the time you can make it work. The temptation is there though, they cater more food than any crewmember can physically eat, yet some seem to try.
You can make some decent meals out of the catering from most stations, toss the bread and make a keto friendly salad bowl, or something like that.
Some stations like MIA are godawful, but most of the time you can make it work. The temptation is there though, they cater more food than any crewmember can physically eat, yet some seem to try.
06-01-2022, 05:45 AM
#457
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Is 17on/13off a hard schedule across airframes and is there any ability to exceed 13 days off at home (excluding vacation, sick days, etc)? Are you able to split on/off days? Trying to understand how seniority plays a role into QOL and how much are you able to manipulate your schedules.
06-01-2022, 05:55 AM
#458
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Is 17on/13off a hard schedule across airframes and is there any ability to exceed 13 days off at home (excluding vacation, sick days, etc)? Are you able to split on/off days? Trying to understand how seniority plays a role into QOL and how much are you able to manipulate your schedules.
Yes there are lines where the time on/off is split into multiple trips.
06-01-2022, 06:18 AM
#459
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