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Old 09-26-2019, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8er1550
Hmm? I know a couple people on the 767 in CVG and I’ve been told you’re home a fairly good bit if you live here.


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I see. While it’s not a base....the 76 guys are there alot. Not as much on the 74.
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by goinaround
I see. While it’s not a base....the 76 guys are there alot. Not as much on the 74.


Yeah I do see what you’re saying. I guess I should’ve said I live in an area where a lot of trips start/end. Still, no nonrevving regardless is a nice thing.


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Old 09-26-2019, 04:23 PM
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Hey guys,

I'm new to the forums here. I'm an FO at a regional carrier and just received job offers for JetBlue and Atlas. At either airline, I'd be living in base. I have to make a decision for where I'd like to go.

Here are my considerations:

JetBlue Pros:
1) Excellent company culture and appear to be people-forward
2) Competitive pay
3) Positive company outlook for the next several years (Europe flying, A220 in lieu of E190, etc)

JetBlue Cons:
1) Similar to a regional flying footprint with slightly longer flights.
2) Driving length to the airport is considerably longer than what I have to do now.
3) Very similar scheduling structure as to what I do now. 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, maybe 5 off, etc. and so separation of work vs home life can be tough.


Atlas Pros:
1) Immense variety of flying
2) Highly respected fleet
3) High aggregation of days on vs days off and so quality of time off improves

Atlas Cons:
1) Comparatively inferior pay although contract negotiations are in progress
2) Work schedules are grueling
3) Pilots vs Management have a toxic relationship

The big factors here are quality of life, pilot pay, long term prognosis for my career, etc. What feedback do you guys have? What other things to consider am I missing? I appreciate your input, thank you very much.
Before you post something like this, you would of been much better served by researching even just a bit on this forum. It’s not rocket science!! The answer is crystal clear, even if you only consider one simple aspect: Atlas ownership/management absolutely hates the pilot group’s guts!! Plain and simple!! Not saying JB loves their pilots (I think they don’t), but not nearly as hate filled as Atlas.

Unfortunately there is not much “slack” here as MUCH info is readily available on this board.
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8er1550
Yeah I do see what you’re saying. I guess I should’ve said I live in an area where a lot of trips start/end. Still, no nonrevving regardless is a nice thing.


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Yeah man, that’ll be good livin’!
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Old 09-26-2019, 05:19 PM
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Bigger yes. shinier? well it sounds like you haven’t been in a dump truck. We all especially love the lav Sunday night at 3 am after it’s been on the ramp all weekend in July. Absolutely takes your breath away. New planes? well we even had an Ocho sporting a yellow tail with the Dhl rubbed off. 3 white engine cowlings and one blue thanks to a pod strike. some speed tape from a belt loader accident and they rolled the livery off the empennage with what I would guess was 10$ a gal Home Depot flat white bc it was still bleeding through. Yeah come to atlas and fly some dirty girls.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8er1550
Very true! The biggest part for me is QOL. I actually just accepted a class date at K4 from a regional who had a guaranteed interview at DL. The thing is, they could pay me very well all day long but it doesn’t take the pain out of dealing with NYC and IROPS and making “podium announcements” along with “Galley Announcements”. I started in the freight biz working as an intern for ABX going thru college. So I know the nature of the beast. I live in-base for K4 so for me, it was kind of a no brainer (driving to work). DL is a great company and I hope they strive. I enjoyed the regionals but my fear was to settle there. Something I did not want to do. So, cheers to being onboard with K4 and I hope that it’s a smooth ride for new hires in this era.


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I’ve learned to embrace the east coast and Irops since I know how much it can boost my credit. At least at Jetblue, a couple bad weather events each month can sometimes almost double your credit. Full disclosure....living in base makes those bad days much more tolerable.
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I’ve learned to embrace the east coast and Irops since I know how much it can boost my credit. At least at Jetblue, a couple bad weather events each month can sometimes almost double your credit. Full disclosure....living in base makes those bad days much more tolerable.
Living in base makes a regional tolerable too. If you can't live at base, nothing beats true home basing, unless you have something like Fed Ex where you can ride company metal to work on a guaranteed seat.
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Old 09-27-2019, 05:41 AM
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Living in base makes a regional tolerable too. If you can't live at base, nothing beats true home basing, unless you have something like Fed Ex where you can ride company metal to work on a guaranteed seat.
Much prefer a commute with a 4 on/3 off lifestyle with 15-17 days off than some of the 17 day excursions I know the ACMI’s do even with home basing. To each their own.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:39 AM
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Much prefer a commute with a 4 on/3 off lifestyle with 15-17 days off than some of the 17 day excursions I know the ACMI’s do even with home basing. To each their own.


Can someone work the math on this?


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Old 09-27-2019, 07:49 AM
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Can someone work the math on this?


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What math? It’s personal preference. If I wasn’t married with kids, then I can see the ACMI lifestyle working.
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