JetBlue or Atlas?
#11
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 698
Hey guys,
I'm new to the forums here. I'm an FO at a regional carrier and just received job offers for JetBlue and Atlas. At either airline, I'd be living in base. I have to make a decision for where I'd like to go.
Here are my considerations:
JetBlue Pros:
1) Excellent company culture and appear to be people-forward
2) Competitive pay
3) Positive company outlook for the next several years (Europe flying, A220 in lieu of E190, etc)
JetBlue Cons:
1) Similar to a regional flying footprint with slightly longer flights.
2) Driving length to the airport is considerably longer than what I have to do now.
3) Very similar scheduling structure as to what I do now. 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, maybe 5 off, etc. and so separation of work vs home life can be tough.
Atlas Pros:
1) Immense variety of flying
2) Highly respected fleet
3) High aggregation of days on vs days off and so quality of time off improves
Atlas Cons:
1) Comparatively inferior pay although contract negotiations are in progress
2) Work schedules are grueling
3) Pilots vs Management have a toxic relationship
The big factors here are quality of life, pilot pay, long term prognosis for my career, etc. What feedback do you guys have? What other things to consider am I missing? I appreciate your input, thank you very much.
I'm new to the forums here. I'm an FO at a regional carrier and just received job offers for JetBlue and Atlas. At either airline, I'd be living in base. I have to make a decision for where I'd like to go.
Here are my considerations:
JetBlue Pros:
1) Excellent company culture and appear to be people-forward
2) Competitive pay
3) Positive company outlook for the next several years (Europe flying, A220 in lieu of E190, etc)
JetBlue Cons:
1) Similar to a regional flying footprint with slightly longer flights.
2) Driving length to the airport is considerably longer than what I have to do now.
3) Very similar scheduling structure as to what I do now. 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, maybe 5 off, etc. and so separation of work vs home life can be tough.
Atlas Pros:
1) Immense variety of flying
2) Highly respected fleet
3) High aggregation of days on vs days off and so quality of time off improves
Atlas Cons:
1) Comparatively inferior pay although contract negotiations are in progress
2) Work schedules are grueling
3) Pilots vs Management have a toxic relationship
The big factors here are quality of life, pilot pay, long term prognosis for my career, etc. What feedback do you guys have? What other things to consider am I missing? I appreciate your input, thank you very much.
Highly respected fleet.
Ah yes.( the 747 ) After a 20 hour day, dragging your garbage down the stairs, to some hotel in ASIA for 12 hours, your last thought is how respected the fleet is. It’s why the hell am I doing this.
The (767) R3 in the hub from 3am to 9am 17 days a month. Yes, lots of respect there.
The only way you will ever make money at this place- work on all your X day’s. The only problem, you’re going to be so junior, there won’t be any flying for you to get.
But hey, if you don’t believe me, come see for yourself. BTW, I don’t want to hear you complaining in the HUB about your r3 shift.
#12
The original posting has to be an Atlas management troll. No one in their right mind would go there right now if they have other options. If it wasn’t an atlas management type and this person is for real, then the lack of ability to make a common sense decision from all the information already on this forum shows a severe lack of situational awareness. It baffles the mind someone would actually ask that question. You can lead a horse to water.....
I have friends there still who are all trying to leave. I wish the pilot group the best luck in the future and hope they earn their true worth. It’s a hard hard life trying to live the “respectable” Atlas dream.
Signed
3 year Atlas parolee
I have friends there still who are all trying to leave. I wish the pilot group the best luck in the future and hope they earn their true worth. It’s a hard hard life trying to live the “respectable” Atlas dream.
Signed
3 year Atlas parolee
#14
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: e145 fo
Posts: 250
#15
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: Wichita
Posts: 736
Hey guys,
I'm new to the forums here. I'm an FO at a regional carrier and just received job offers for JetBlue and Atlas. At either airline, I'd be living in base. I have to make a decision for where I'd like to go.
Here are my considerations:
JetBlue Pros:
1) Excellent company culture and appear to be people-forward
2) Competitive pay
3) Positive company outlook for the next several years (Europe flying, A220 in lieu of E190, etc)
JetBlue Cons:
1) Similar to a regional flying footprint with slightly longer flights.
2) Driving length to the airport is considerably longer than what I have to do now.
3) Very similar scheduling structure as to what I do now. 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, maybe 5 off, etc. and so separation of work vs home life can be tough.
Atlas Pros:
1) Immense variety of flying
2) Highly respected fleet
3) High aggregation of days on vs days off and so quality of time off improves
Atlas Cons:
1) Comparatively inferior pay although contract negotiations are in progress
2) Work schedules are grueling
3) Pilots vs Management have a toxic relationship
The big factors here are quality of life, pilot pay, long term prognosis for my career, etc. What feedback do you guys have? What other things to consider am I missing? I appreciate your input, thank you very much.
I'm new to the forums here. I'm an FO at a regional carrier and just received job offers for JetBlue and Atlas. At either airline, I'd be living in base. I have to make a decision for where I'd like to go.
Here are my considerations:
JetBlue Pros:
1) Excellent company culture and appear to be people-forward
2) Competitive pay
3) Positive company outlook for the next several years (Europe flying, A220 in lieu of E190, etc)
JetBlue Cons:
1) Similar to a regional flying footprint with slightly longer flights.
2) Driving length to the airport is considerably longer than what I have to do now.
3) Very similar scheduling structure as to what I do now. 4 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, maybe 5 off, etc. and so separation of work vs home life can be tough.
Atlas Pros:
1) Immense variety of flying
2) Highly respected fleet
3) High aggregation of days on vs days off and so quality of time off improves
Atlas Cons:
1) Comparatively inferior pay although contract negotiations are in progress
2) Work schedules are grueling
3) Pilots vs Management have a toxic relationship
The big factors here are quality of life, pilot pay, long term prognosis for my career, etc. What feedback do you guys have? What other things to consider am I missing? I appreciate your input, thank you very much.
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 186
Are you happy w/ your decision to go with K4? I actually think that’s a great decision.
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#18
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,935
#19
The original posting has to be an Atlas management troll. No one in their right mind would go there right now if they have other options. If it wasn’t an atlas management type and this person is for real, then the lack of ability to make a common sense decision from all the information already on this forum shows a severe lack of situational awareness. It baffles the mind someone would actually ask that question. You can lead a horse to water.....
I have friends there still who are all trying to leave. I wish the pilot group the best luck in the future and hope they earn their true worth. It’s a hard hard life trying to live the “respectable” Atlas dream.
Signed
3 year Atlas parolee
I have friends there still who are all trying to leave. I wish the pilot group the best luck in the future and hope they earn their true worth. It’s a hard hard life trying to live the “respectable” Atlas dream.
Signed
3 year Atlas parolee
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