BrazilBusDriver

Yeah and allegedly ALPA national had to put boot in @$$ to the Mesa MEC to get them what they got (as in, no, no one that flies 737s under ALPA representation is going to make that little).

But hey, if worst comes to worst the company has set a floor. Couple more hours a month for MMG, better pay, still a sh!t 401k match, and current book on a lot of stuff, but some marginal improvements. Suspect the answer will be somewhere in the middle on a lot of things so I'm looking forward to the final product.

I'm probably one of the few on here, but I accept that. Suppose it depends on whether you're already locked into a career or not. I'd take the balance of the company's proposal if the union got the big asks on scope...this place would move from "maybe a port in the storm" to "definitely very serious potential for a full career here" if that happened. Otherwise I feel like there's echoes of corporate America in the early 1980s and regional airlines in the 2000s in ACMI, despite the size advantage (and presumably staying power) Atlas has.

RyeMex

The company’s proposal for a retirement package can only be described as beyond insulting. Truly.

dera

IBT has a somewhat compelling argument and a reasonable proposal on that. Hope arbitrator will at least match the K4 deal, which would be in line with the other arguments company makes in their brief.

Fillmore Slim

The entire proposal the company submitted is heartbreaking. Every pilot who's ever worked there on a 17 day multi leg trip knows what I'm talking about. Killing our bodies day in and day out to serve the almighty with no control over our schedule and a sub standard retirement plan. This is how your company values you.

Turbine1

The company proposal is pretty much current book on our 10 year old CBA. No more vacation, no more days off. Extensions of 3 days allowed to lineholders not just reserves. They won’t even spend an extra 2% for LTD till retirement. Not a penny for fire resistant containers for lithium batteries that we carry on most flights. Elimination of domestic catering. Pay rates below all other ACMIs. We apparently deserve Mesa level compensation as the company compares Atlas to them over a dozen times in their 180 page vomitus mass of a (possibly) final brief. Mesa. A company that just started flying a few 737s. Plus comparisons to 21Air, an airline with 30 pilots compared to our 2600 pilots.

They’re also trying to eliminate the no crossing of picket lines language implemented by the arbitrator in 2011 and upheld by another arbitrator several years ago when the company tried to claim it was a “mistake”. They must think the third time is the charm. Management intends to force their pilots to fly struck work, if they prevail with the arbitrator.

Thanks to the Atlas CEO who has 30 years in the aviation world who claimed in arbitration he “doesn't know what the term struck work means”, in the future an Atlas pilot may be faced with the choice of resign, be terminated, or cross a picket line at company direction to collect your permanent scab card.

Varsity

What a sad situation. Atlas was once the king of ACMI jobs, only to decay to the floor of the industry. Many of us on the outside were hoping Atlas would finally turn the corner on this next contract.

Really sad actually.

C17B74

It is dismal no doubt. Minor increases here and there perhaps and losses as well. Not really surprising after 5 long years beyond the end of the last contract: No Vote, Strategic Acquisition of other entity, profit sharing history prior to year of scheduled contract arbitration, high crew force flow thru, opportunities lost, outsourcing? Etc. Tensions high, constant delays, it’s no real wonder how this was going to be played right down to the wire. “Business is War”, definitely a few chapters written here on many different levels. Some of you should write a book and capitalize on this somehow. That previously mentioned “playbook” someone alluded to early on is a tad thicker perhaps, but I am no expert. Cog meet Wheel...

dera

Reading the briefs is a good introduction to what unions mean by "pattern bargaining".

Atlas Shrugged

It's a war alright. It has already cost 3 lives.

If the arbitrator does not see through the lies, then there is no hope for us.

It was absolutely painful reading the lies and distortions in the company brief.

Globemaster2827

What I find interesting is that after the last 5 years there will be Atlas pilots who are surprised by the company's briefs. There were several pilots who didn't understand why yall didn't just accept the amalgamation 5 years ago... They claimed the company wouldn't dare simply merge the pay and work rules with Southern! At least that didn't happen thanks to your union leadership.