Atlas / Southern
05-21-2020, 06:54 AM
#1411
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Sr. VP of button pushing
Posts: 2,733
NRT - SYD, how about just LAX - HNL? There used to be a requirement to do a North Atlantic crossing as part of OE but it became too hard to schedule so the company dropped the requirement. There are a couple airports in South America the company requires a Captain to have flown into before with a LCA but in many places you’re lucky to have a note giving you an Ops frequency to call for parking.
05-21-2020, 07:02 AM
#1412
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 104
Per our FOM:
”The criteria to upgrade to a Captain position is as follows:
(1) 2,500 hours total time on Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) or,
(2) 1,500 hours Second-in-Command in Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) and 500 hours as Second-in-Command at the Company.”
”The criteria to upgrade to a Captain position is as follows:
(1) 2,500 hours total time on Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) or,
(2) 1,500 hours Second-in-Command in Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) and 500 hours as Second-in-Command at the Company.”
thanks for this
05-21-2020, 07:53 AM
#1413
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Retired
Posts: 651
Per our FOM:
”The criteria to upgrade to a Captain position is as follows:
(1) 2,500 hours total time on Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) or,
(2) 1,500 hours Second-in-Command in Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) and 500 hours as Second-in-Command at the Company.”
”The criteria to upgrade to a Captain position is as follows:
(1) 2,500 hours total time on Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) or,
(2) 1,500 hours Second-in-Command in Large Group 2 Transport Category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 pounds take-off weight) and 500 hours as Second-in-Command at the Company.”
I will have my wife add it to the list.
05-21-2020, 08:15 AM
#1414
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Position: B-58
Posts: 131
Exactly...heard this from all the poor young atlas dudes in line for UPS at the last conference...all moaning about not getting a bunch of hours nor building TPIC obviously...
05-21-2020, 08:33 AM
#1415
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 747 captain
Posts: 1,561
There is no "ground school for unfamiliar airports", no route checks, no such thing as a "Route Training Captain". There are "Station Guides", but they are the result of feedback from the crews.
Atlas does not have a stable route structure. It is more like a charter operation or a fractional in that you operate to and from what the customer wants -- and that can change on short notice. More than once I have gone into an airport that was not only new to Atlas, but that had never seen a 747 before. The big issue then being that had I known ahead of time I would have ironed my pants and worn a fresh shirt for the locals who show up to see the airplane.
There are a lot of routine "same old thing/different day" days at Atlas; but there are also a fair number "bring your A game" days. And it is not just Atlas, it is ACMI in general. Some guys thrive on it, some guys hate it.
Atlas does not have a stable route structure. It is more like a charter operation or a fractional in that you operate to and from what the customer wants -- and that can change on short notice. More than once I have gone into an airport that was not only new to Atlas, but that had never seen a 747 before. The big issue then being that had I known ahead of time I would have ironed my pants and worn a fresh shirt for the locals who show up to see the airplane.
There are a lot of routine "same old thing/different day" days at Atlas; but there are also a fair number "bring your A game" days. And it is not just Atlas, it is ACMI in general. Some guys thrive on it, some guys hate it.
05-21-2020, 08:39 AM
#1416
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 386
For what it's worth:. I knew what I was getting into and actually enjoyed my admittedly short stay at Atlas. I lived in base and came from no union and small operators so this may have something to do with it. I had all my TPIC before being hired at Atlas, and really no ulterior motives on going anywhere else.
That being said on my exit interview, which was overall very professional, they said something that stuck with me: pilots like me (implying my flight times/resume) were always a "flight risk".
I had heard of guys being hired and being stuck, blaming the company, but never put much weight to it. But after the interview I think it gave a bit more credence to it perhaps. YMMV
That being said on my exit interview, which was overall very professional, they said something that stuck with me: pilots like me (implying my flight times/resume) were always a "flight risk".
I had heard of guys being hired and being stuck, blaming the company, but never put much weight to it. But after the interview I think it gave a bit more credence to it perhaps. YMMV
05-21-2020, 11:05 AM
#1418
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 728
For what it's worth:. I knew what I was getting into and actually enjoyed my admittedly short stay at Atlas. I lived in base and came from no union and small operators so this may have something to do with it. I had all my TPIC before being hired at Atlas, and really no ulterior motives on going anywhere else.
That being said on my exit interview, which was overall very professional, they said something that stuck with me: pilots like me (implying my flight times/resume) were always a "flight risk".
I had heard of guys being hired and being stuck, blaming the company, but never put much weight to it. But after the interview I think it gave a bit more credence to it perhaps. YMMV
That being said on my exit interview, which was overall very professional, they said something that stuck with me: pilots like me (implying my flight times/resume) were always a "flight risk".
I had heard of guys being hired and being stuck, blaming the company, but never put much weight to it. But after the interview I think it gave a bit more credence to it perhaps. YMMV
05-21-2020, 02:26 PM
#1419
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: 787
Posts: 469
I have noticed quite a few new Atlas postings on LinkedIn recently for 747 maintenance managers and passenger service representatives for IAH. I wonder if something similar to the Houston Express is starting soon?
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