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Old 10-24-2016, 05:58 AM
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Unhappy American pilots to push union switch after five decades - Chicago Tribune

A group of American Airlines pilots is preparing a push to give up their 53-year-old independent union and join the larger Air Line Pilots Association, after peers at rival carriers secured tentative contracts with better pay and benefits.

Resolutions calling for creation of an Allied Pilots Association committee to evaluate the issue will be introduced in at least two pilot bases over the next two weeks, according to interviews with aviators supporting the change. The proposals could go to the union's board for approval, with the goal of merging APA into ALPA, they said.

Frustration has been building over the past two months among APA members after pilots at Delta Air Lines and Southwest Airlines agreed to tentative terms that would boost their compensation above that in a contract American aviators reached last year. If Delta pilots approve their accord, a provision in United Continental's labor agreement would increase pay at that carrier to the same rates. United Parcel Service and FedEx Corp. aviators also have gained new contracts since last year.

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I am totally in support of re-joining ALPA for numerous reasons. Looks like the consensus is growing.
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I am totally in support of re-joining ALPA for numerous reasons. Looks like the consensus is growing.
I noticed that the APA leaders are trying to get out in front of this one.

I am most definitely NOT in favor of ALPA unless it means flushing the current crop of *******s running APA.
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You wait! We'll join ALPA and you'll have the same pompous important - acting clowns running the show.

Nothing will change, but the name of the union.
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ALPA has its problems, but given a choice I'd vote for it over the APA. Not every current APA person needs to be removed. There are some good people in there, but...... a good number also need to be flushed right down the pooper.
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ALPA has its problems, but given a choice I'd vote for it over the APA. Not every current APA person needs to be removed. There are some good people in there, but...... a good number also need to be flushed right down the pooper.

Pretty much the entire BOD and all of the national officers.

How do we do that? How can we get rid of the plague without endangering the whole host?
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Pretty much the entire BOD and all of the national officers.
And all the people who celebrated this turd of a JCBA over a $3,600 dinner. Still happy, guys?
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You wait! We'll join ALPA and you'll have the same pompous important - acting clowns running the show.

Nothing will change, but the name of the union.
There will be some things that change, with one of them being operating under the ALPA Constitution and By-Laws. Contained within that framework are the way we do our elections. Our MEC Chairmen (the equivalent of your APA President) are elected by the base representatives. Pilots continue to elect base representatives. From what I understand, this is different from the way your structure is. It is significant.

Oh, our discontented in ALPA rarely use the adjective "pompous". There are a lot of other words used though.

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And all the people who celebrated this turd of a JCBA over a $3,600 dinner. Still happy, guys?
Yeah, anyone involved in celebrating with Opus One over this POS contract needs to be excluded from EVER holding any Union positition EVER.
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Oh, our discontented in ALPA rarely use the adjective "pompous". There are a lot of other words used though.
Superior?

(Sorry, couldn't resist)
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