Advice to American applicants...
10-18-2016, 05:41 PM
#71
Whats a line?
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: Hotel Furniture
Posts: 85
I just updated my application for the first time in a long while. what was the Organization Fit Assessment? I haven't filled it out in a long time so i have no idea what I wrote in there. Is that going to hurt me?
10-18-2016, 06:05 PM
#72
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,967
I don't think you understand. A DL rsv pilot can work 15 days (assuming all on days off) and make 150 hours pay. (Assuming 75 hour rsv guarantee and flys 75).
10-18-2016, 06:10 PM
#73
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
I have no idea what the work rules are like at AA but as a regional guy, I would love to have the problem of being at AA and trying to fix it in the future. With that said, here are most of the work rules at my regional ExpressJet, which is probably only second to Air Wisconson. I copied and pasted this from another thread in the regional section.
401k Matching
1-5 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution (B) Plan
1-5 years 2.5%
5-10 years 4%
10-15 years 5%
15-20 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%
Profit Sharing
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income, AND
6% of the NET profit shall be distributed equally among all eligible pilots.
Line Holder guarantee: 75 hours
Reserve guarantee: 75 hours
Charter guarantee: 90 hours
Instructor guarantee: 90 hours
Ground Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $12/hour override.
Aircraft/Simulator Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $15/hour override.
Check Airman pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Aircrew Program Designee pays: applicable longevity rate plus $21/hour override.
Minimum 5 hours per training event at override rate.
Charter pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Minimum 5.5 hours per day at override rate.
Per Diem Rate: $1.85
Increases to $1.90 on 8/17/2017
Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled block time
• Actual block time flown by segment
• Min daily guarantee of 2:00
• 3:00 for calender day layover
100% cancelation pay
100% deadhead pay
Other pay Credits
• Drug Alcohol testing (30 minutes)
• CBT / Home study (1 minute pay for every 2 minutes length of course)
• Customs at hubs (10 minutes)
• Ground repositioning (12 minutes for domestic airport except EWR, 24 minutes for EWR, 30 minutes for arrival from international destination)
• 150% pay for voluntarily training on day off
• 150% pay for trips picked up when reserve coverage is less than 10%
New Hires: single occupancy hotel room
• Uniforms are Payroll Deducted
• MS Surface EFB provided
• Per Diem during training ~$1500
• Once Simulator training complete, you begin receiving minimum monthly guarantee
• Positive space travel provided to and from training and Home of record
Uniforms:
$150/year uniform allowance
Vacation
• Year 1: 7 days (7/12 days per month)
• Year 2-6: 14 days (14/12 days per month)
• Year 7-10: 21 days (21/12 days per month)
• Year 11+: 28 days (28/12 days per month)
Pay is 3.75 hours per day.
Paid the greater of monthly guarantee or line value. May pick up trips during vacation days or days off as add pay.
Instructors receive two additional personal days and holidays off with pay.
Day At a Time Vacation
Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school
SCHEDULING
Minimum days off: Line Holder - 12 days
Reserve - 11 days off per 30 day bid period; 12 days off per 31 day bid period
Instructor - 12 days
Charter - 14 days
Charter pilots are home based.
No check-in requirement.
PBS used only for relief lines.
Domicile trades on monthly basis.
Junior Manning/reassignment past termination time - 150%/200% of the greater of:
-3.75 Hours per duty period
-Block or better
No reassignment of line holder for trip picked up in open time, stand up trip, or red-eye.
RED FLAG trips (150% or 200%) can be picked up by line holders or reserve pilots.
Trip Building Rules
Pilot Committee builds trips.
Maximum of six legs per duty day.
Trips will be constructed with one to four day trips (no trips greater than 4 days)
Scheduled or rescheduled duty day will not exceed 13.5 hours or
11 hours for duty that begins between 2101LT to 0429LT (except for stand up trips).
A trip that operates between 0100 LT and 0400 LT (red-eye) will be constructed with no more than 2 segments.
Stand up (CDO) trips - not scheduled to exceed 14 hours, no layovers of less than 6 hours, and a maximum of 3 segments preceding the layover, and a maximum of 1 segment following the layover. Stand up and red-eye trips will not be built into lines without union consent; they will be put in open time.
Line Building Rules
Pilot Committee builds hard lines.
Regular lines will not average more than 88 block hours and no lines are built with more than 95 hours.
At least 2 days free from all duty will be scheduled between trips that operate between 0100 LT and 0400 LT and trips that do not operate between this period.
Lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period.
Personal Drop with adequate coverage or crew scheduling consent.
Bad Day Worse Day Trades for line holders and reserve pilots.
Reserve Rules
Short Call Reserve - 2 hour call out.
Long Call Reserve - 12 hour call out.
At least 10% of reserve lines will be long call. Can be converted to short call with 12 hour notice.
Lineholder rules apply once reserve pilot is assigned and released to show time (no requirement to answer phone).
Reserve pilot automatically released if not reassigned before block in of last segment. No ACARS reassignment.
Reserve automatically released at 1800 local on last day in a block of reserve days.
Airport Standby (4 hours) - paid at 4 hours or trip value, whichever is greater.
Can only assign 6 ASB per bid month, not two days in a row, not the last day in a block of reserve days, and cannot be assigned outside of domicile.
Aggressive Pick Up Window allowed for reserve pilots.
Floating Reserve Lines - 2 extra days off.
The largest block of days off for reserve pilots are immovable.
Commuter Clause
Must have two flights with one seat available (can include the jumpseat) 24-36 hours before departure that arrives at least 15 minutes prior to show time. Can use unlimited. Or one flight with seat available (can include Jumpseat) 24-36 hours before departure that arrives 15 minutes before show time. But can only use this provision 3 times in a rolling 12 months.
Fatigue Call Policy
Paid by company if caused by operational reasons. Or paid from sick bank if caused by pilot.
Sick Call Policy
If accompanied by doctor's note. Can be used unlimited. Otherwise, within rolling 12 months, at 4 sick calls, verbal warning, 5 sick calls, written warning, 6 sick calls, termination warning.
Furlough Mitigation
40 & 60 hour Reduced Flying Lines (RFL)
Built between 37-43 or 57 - 63 hours respectively
Minimum of 18 or 16 days off per month, respectively.
Can trip trade but can't pick up on days off
Can pick up advertised trips.
No Fly Lines (NFL)
Monthly guarantee of 0, 25, or 40, as requested, paid out from sick bank.
Can't pick up open time or advertised trips
FMLA
Eligible if active service for 1 year and has accumulated 650 credit hours during previous 12 months.
Emergency Leave
Up to 3 days with no reduction of monthly guarantee
Bereavement Leave
Four consecutive days with no reduction of monthly guarantee
Education Leave
A pilot may be granted an educational leave for a period not to exceed 1 year. At the end of the leave, he may apply for
additional educational leave.
Personal Leave
A personal leave of absence may be requested by a pilot
Adoption Assistance Program
Reimbursement for eligible adoption expenses
Scholarship Program
Assist employees, their children, or spouses who plan to continue education in college or vocational school programs. Scholarships are offered each year for study at an accredited institution of the student’s choice. Up to 15 awards for $1,500 dollars will be granted each year.
W.I.N.G.S. Program
When In Need Get Support – An employee-funded program for co-workers overcome by personal tragedies, natural disasters, or other situations creating a dire financial need.
Benefits:
OJI Bank - makes up difference between worker's comp and minimum monthly guarantee.
Company will not increase the employee contribution to medical insurance to more than 25%.
PPO, EPO & High Deductible Health Plans – (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment)
Available plans depend level of coverage and number of dependents ($21-438/mo)
Prescription Drug Plan included in the medical plans.
Dental (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment) $18-102/mo depending on HMO/PPO and # covered.
Vision $11-28/mo depending on # covered.
Flexible Spending Accounts - Health Care and Dependent Care
Short-term Disability
Long-term Disability (60% paid by company): 55% of 85.5 hours at your applicable longevity rate.
Life Insurance (company paid)- equal to one year of your annual base pay. Includes a terminal illness benefit.
Supplemental Life Insurance available 10x annual pay
Spouse Life Insurance - up to $250k
Child Life Insurance - up to $10k
Personal Accident Insurance - Provides a benefit if you die or suffer certain injuries as a result of a covered accident. Coverage available for you and your family, between $50k - $500k.
Business Accident Insurance (company paid): Provides benefits if you are injured while traveling on company business; $200,000 paid by the company
Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area.
Employee Stock Purchase Plan
Active employees can purchase SKYW stock through payroll deductions at a 5% discount
Other Stuff:
Participate in ASAP, FOQA, and AQP
Bidding done via online system. Bid via default (line number order), or assign values to re-order the lines for yourself. You can pick how you want them ordered based on line value, types of trips (1day / 2day), days off, etc.
Automated trip trades, trip advertisements, and picking up of dropped trips of other crew members and open time via crew web site.
Contract amendable 02/18/2018
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-please-5.html
401k Matching
1-5 yrs service 100% up to 4%
5-9 yrs service 100% up to 5%
10+ yrs service 100% up to 6%
Defined Contribution (B) Plan
1-5 years 2.5%
5-10 years 4%
10-15 years 5%
15-20 years 5.5%
20+ years 6%
Profit Sharing
50% of every dollar earned above $30 million annual pre-tax income, AND
6% of the NET profit shall be distributed equally among all eligible pilots.
Line Holder guarantee: 75 hours
Reserve guarantee: 75 hours
Charter guarantee: 90 hours
Instructor guarantee: 90 hours
Ground Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $12/hour override.
Aircraft/Simulator Instructor pays: applicable longevity rate plus $15/hour override.
Check Airman pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Aircrew Program Designee pays: applicable longevity rate plus $21/hour override.
Minimum 5 hours per training event at override rate.
Charter pays: applicable longevity rate plus $18/hour override.
Minimum 5.5 hours per day at override rate.
Per Diem Rate: $1.85
Increases to $1.90 on 8/17/2017
Compensation:
Paid the greater of:
• Scheduled block time
• Actual block time flown by segment
• Min daily guarantee of 2:00
• 3:00 for calender day layover
100% cancelation pay
100% deadhead pay
Other pay Credits
• Drug Alcohol testing (30 minutes)
• CBT / Home study (1 minute pay for every 2 minutes length of course)
• Customs at hubs (10 minutes)
• Ground repositioning (12 minutes for domestic airport except EWR, 24 minutes for EWR, 30 minutes for arrival from international destination)
• 150% pay for voluntarily training on day off
• 150% pay for trips picked up when reserve coverage is less than 10%
New Hires: single occupancy hotel room
• Uniforms are Payroll Deducted
• MS Surface EFB provided
• Per Diem during training ~$1500
• Once Simulator training complete, you begin receiving minimum monthly guarantee
• Positive space travel provided to and from training and Home of record
Uniforms:
$150/year uniform allowance
Vacation
• Year 1: 7 days (7/12 days per month)
• Year 2-6: 14 days (14/12 days per month)
• Year 7-10: 21 days (21/12 days per month)
• Year 11+: 28 days (28/12 days per month)
Pay is 3.75 hours per day.
Paid the greater of monthly guarantee or line value. May pick up trips during vacation days or days off as add pay.
Instructors receive two additional personal days and holidays off with pay.
Day At a Time Vacation
Sick Time Accrual Rate
5 hours per month starting from the month of ground school
SCHEDULING
Minimum days off: Line Holder - 12 days
Reserve - 11 days off per 30 day bid period; 12 days off per 31 day bid period
Instructor - 12 days
Charter - 14 days
Charter pilots are home based.
No check-in requirement.
PBS used only for relief lines.
Domicile trades on monthly basis.
Junior Manning/reassignment past termination time - 150%/200% of the greater of:
-3.75 Hours per duty period
-Block or better
No reassignment of line holder for trip picked up in open time, stand up trip, or red-eye.
RED FLAG trips (150% or 200%) can be picked up by line holders or reserve pilots.
Trip Building Rules
Pilot Committee builds trips.
Maximum of six legs per duty day.
Trips will be constructed with one to four day trips (no trips greater than 4 days)
Scheduled or rescheduled duty day will not exceed 13.5 hours or
11 hours for duty that begins between 2101LT to 0429LT (except for stand up trips).
A trip that operates between 0100 LT and 0400 LT (red-eye) will be constructed with no more than 2 segments.
Stand up (CDO) trips - not scheduled to exceed 14 hours, no layovers of less than 6 hours, and a maximum of 3 segments preceding the layover, and a maximum of 1 segment following the layover. Stand up and red-eye trips will not be built into lines without union consent; they will be put in open time.
Line Building Rules
Pilot Committee builds hard lines.
Regular lines will not average more than 88 block hours and no lines are built with more than 95 hours.
At least 2 days free from all duty will be scheduled between trips that operate between 0100 LT and 0400 LT and trips that do not operate between this period.
Lines will be constructed to provide at least 2 days off at the pilot’s domicile during any 7 consecutive day period.
Personal Drop with adequate coverage or crew scheduling consent.
Bad Day Worse Day Trades for line holders and reserve pilots.
Reserve Rules
Short Call Reserve - 2 hour call out.
Long Call Reserve - 12 hour call out.
At least 10% of reserve lines will be long call. Can be converted to short call with 12 hour notice.
Lineholder rules apply once reserve pilot is assigned and released to show time (no requirement to answer phone).
Reserve pilot automatically released if not reassigned before block in of last segment. No ACARS reassignment.
Reserve automatically released at 1800 local on last day in a block of reserve days.
Airport Standby (4 hours) - paid at 4 hours or trip value, whichever is greater.
Can only assign 6 ASB per bid month, not two days in a row, not the last day in a block of reserve days, and cannot be assigned outside of domicile.
Aggressive Pick Up Window allowed for reserve pilots.
Floating Reserve Lines - 2 extra days off.
The largest block of days off for reserve pilots are immovable.
Commuter Clause
Must have two flights with one seat available (can include the jumpseat) 24-36 hours before departure that arrives at least 15 minutes prior to show time. Can use unlimited. Or one flight with seat available (can include Jumpseat) 24-36 hours before departure that arrives 15 minutes before show time. But can only use this provision 3 times in a rolling 12 months.
Fatigue Call Policy
Paid by company if caused by operational reasons. Or paid from sick bank if caused by pilot.
Sick Call Policy
If accompanied by doctor's note. Can be used unlimited. Otherwise, within rolling 12 months, at 4 sick calls, verbal warning, 5 sick calls, written warning, 6 sick calls, termination warning.
Furlough Mitigation
40 & 60 hour Reduced Flying Lines (RFL)
Built between 37-43 or 57 - 63 hours respectively
Minimum of 18 or 16 days off per month, respectively.
Can trip trade but can't pick up on days off
Can pick up advertised trips.
No Fly Lines (NFL)
Monthly guarantee of 0, 25, or 40, as requested, paid out from sick bank.
Can't pick up open time or advertised trips
FMLA
Eligible if active service for 1 year and has accumulated 650 credit hours during previous 12 months.
Emergency Leave
Up to 3 days with no reduction of monthly guarantee
Bereavement Leave
Four consecutive days with no reduction of monthly guarantee
Education Leave
A pilot may be granted an educational leave for a period not to exceed 1 year. At the end of the leave, he may apply for
additional educational leave.
Personal Leave
A personal leave of absence may be requested by a pilot
Adoption Assistance Program
Reimbursement for eligible adoption expenses
Scholarship Program
Assist employees, their children, or spouses who plan to continue education in college or vocational school programs. Scholarships are offered each year for study at an accredited institution of the student’s choice. Up to 15 awards for $1,500 dollars will be granted each year.
W.I.N.G.S. Program
When In Need Get Support – An employee-funded program for co-workers overcome by personal tragedies, natural disasters, or other situations creating a dire financial need.
Benefits:
OJI Bank - makes up difference between worker's comp and minimum monthly guarantee.
Company will not increase the employee contribution to medical insurance to more than 25%.
PPO, EPO & High Deductible Health Plans – (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment)
Available plans depend level of coverage and number of dependents ($21-438/mo)
Prescription Drug Plan included in the medical plans.
Dental (starts 1st day of 3rd month of employment) $18-102/mo depending on HMO/PPO and # covered.
Vision $11-28/mo depending on # covered.
Flexible Spending Accounts - Health Care and Dependent Care
Short-term Disability
Long-term Disability (60% paid by company): 55% of 85.5 hours at your applicable longevity rate.
Life Insurance (company paid)- equal to one year of your annual base pay. Includes a terminal illness benefit.
Supplemental Life Insurance available 10x annual pay
Spouse Life Insurance - up to $250k
Child Life Insurance - up to $10k
Personal Accident Insurance - Provides a benefit if you die or suffer certain injuries as a result of a covered accident. Coverage available for you and your family, between $50k - $500k.
Business Accident Insurance (company paid): Provides benefits if you are injured while traveling on company business; $200,000 paid by the company
Employee Assistance Plan (free)
The Employee Assistance Program (EAP) is designed to help you and your family deal with personal difficulties. The EAP will determine whether they will manage your care directly or if you will be referred to a provider in your area.
Employee Stock Purchase Plan
Active employees can purchase SKYW stock through payroll deductions at a 5% discount
Other Stuff:
Participate in ASAP, FOQA, and AQP
Bidding done via online system. Bid via default (line number order), or assign values to re-order the lines for yourself. You can pick how you want them ordered based on line value, types of trips (1day / 2day), days off, etc.
Automated trip trades, trip advertisements, and picking up of dropped trips of other crew members and open time via crew web site.
Contract amendable 02/18/2018
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...-please-5.html
Last edited by Nevjets; 10-18-2016 at 06:28 PM. Reason: Added link
10-19-2016, 07:22 AM
#75
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 233
If we flew on our 12 days off we would get 90 hours additional pay for a total of 163 hours of pay, with the same assumptions you are making (not flying on work days and only flying on days off). What don't I understand? Seems like we would fly less and make more money.
10-19-2016, 07:59 AM
#77
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,967
If we flew on our 12 days off we would get 90 hours additional pay for a total of 163 hours of pay, with the same assumptions you are making (not flying on work days and only flying on days off). What don't I understand? Seems like we would fly less and make more money.
10-19-2016, 08:17 AM
#78
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 233
It is within the rules of the contract. I doubt either example is plausible. Heck, you could potentially make even more within the contract if you premium days went into your scheduled work days. Add three more days for a total of 15 (apples versus apples) that would add 22.5 more hours of pay to make 185.5 hours of pa versus DAL at 150 for the same days worked. Again, either probably far from likely to happen.
10-19-2016, 08:27 AM
#79
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
10-19-2016, 08:34 AM
#80
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,527
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