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Old 07-22-2016, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by esadof
well that would move the west pilots up significantly vs status/Los. You guys are both sayin this is a pure 3 list status/los if that is the case 3rd listers have to be in front of large numbers of west Fo's
If they were furloughed they required their LOS to be adjusted. But to be honest, I have had no specific discussion on 2004 and 2005 AWA hired pilots who were subsequently furloughed. Unless the arbs gave them some specific exception based on them being furloughed but giving them credited time for their furlough they would be adjusted and moved down the list into those who have similar LOS and Status and Category rankings.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
If they were furloughed they required their LOS to be adjusted. But to be honest, I have had no specific discussion on 2004 and 2005 AWA hired pilots who were subsequently furloughed. Unless the arbs gave them some specific exception based on them being furloughed but giving them credited time for their furlough they would be adjusted and moved down the list into those who have similar LOS and Status and Category rankings.
Alright I'll make it simple for you. What are the hire dates of the laa and lus pilots next to the #1 west pilot hired in 1983?
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by esadof
Vendetta said the 3rd listers are behind all west pilots, you see the disconnect? You would also make the third listers assigned west junior to their classmates assigned east
Vendetta will have to address this if he has the specific details. I had no discussions on this issue. I see your point but there would have to be a carve out by the arbs. When you carve out the 2004/2005 AWA pilots from the third listers what then happens to the 2000-2001 LAA pilots compared to the third listers?

I was given the general construction not that level of detail.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:31 PM
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Okay, let's cut to the chase and get the answer to the question everyone wants to know-How does a mid 86 hire LUS east guy do? ;-)

This is all fun and it will be interesting to see how close these predictions are. We'll know soon enough. Heck, we've got the rest of our careers to live with it, no rush now.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by esadof
Alright I'll make it simple for you. What are the hire dates of the laa and lus pilots next to the #1 west pilot hired in 1983?
LAA pilot was hired after him and the LUS pilot was hired before him. Both within a couple of years. Vendetta said he couldn't even hold a Group III CA job. Not what I saw once the list was updated.

Your wanting exact details and an exact list. I think everyone has been clear we haven't seen it.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Okay, let's cut to the chase and get the answer to the question everyone wants to know-How does a mid 86 hire LUS east guy do? ;-)

This is all fun and it will be interesting to see how close these predictions are. We'll know soon enough. Heck, we've got the rest of our careers to live with it, no rush now.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Okay, let's cut to the chase and get the answer to the question everyone wants to know-How does a mid 86 hire LUS east guy do? ;-)

This is all fun and it will be interesting to see how close these predictions are. We'll know soon enough. Heck, we've got the rest of our careers to live with it, no rush now.
Making $250,000 a year, flying Havana turns, and smoking Cubana's on their day off.

Much better than the predictions of the past nine years.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
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That just about exactly the average of east and west proposals.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
LAA pilot was hired after him and the LUS pilot was hired before him. Both within a couple of years. Vendetta said he couldn't even hold a Group III CA job. Not what I saw once the list was updated.

Your wanting exact details and an exact list. I think everyone has been clear we haven't seen it.
That sounds damn close to the Nic to me, updated Nic has our #1 next to Lesh a 4/81 hire and an Laa 1/85 hire
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
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Wow, exactly where the east committee proposed they would be. Truly amazing
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