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Old 07-21-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
West didn't get the nic but they didn't get screwed either. I wasn't for usapa for sometime then I changed after the way I was treated by the west . But in all reality the usapa proposal was fair according to the arbs but the one part it wasn't was 3rd listers over any west pilot I stand on that statement since it came out. Every 3rd listers should be below every west pilot.
You lost me. Are you saying the arbs put third listers above active west pilots? If so, I find that hard to believe.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I have no anger and many others don't. but many do. It will be years before attrition alters that equation significantly. Our next Section 6 is only a few years away and it still will be a major drag. Even with full unity, we have little leverage except maybe the possibility Parker's RJ affair will blow up in his face before that or concurrently and he'll need a bailout. Without that, we have little he needs as we are already the Bronze finisher in the 3-way legacy pilot compensation race.
I agree, our only hope is one pilot group and some semblance of unity. I plan on moving on, even if it's a screw job. Well......if third listers are above me, I'm thirteen years & no furlough, then I may consider a do over at Delta, United or Alaska.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad
You lost me. Are you saying the arbs put third listers above active west pilots? If so, I find that hard to believe.
Every west pilot is behind 3rd listers which is only fair
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:16 PM
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As if the word of an eastie ever had any warranty, damn right we would never deal with thiefs and liars.
And Your reult of not dealing is we have 3rd listers making more money group 4 fo's with 10 years yes los than west fo's stagnated on the bottom in Phoenix. Maybe the liars and thiefs are fergie and koontz.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Every west pilot is behind 3rd listers which is only fair
Every west pilot is behind 3rd listers??? OK, captains too?
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad
Every west pilot is behind 3rd listers??? OK, captains too?
Sorry I was driving I meant every third lister is behind every west pilot. Sorry for the heart attack
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Sorry I was driving I meant every third lister is behind every west pilot. Sorry for the heart attack
Got it. Please don't get in an accident. I like moving up in seniority, but not that way
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlsbad
Got it. Please don't get in an accident. I like moving up in seniority, but not that way
Haha thanks are you a west based pilot?
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Sorry I was driving I meant every third lister is behind every west pilot. Sorry for the heart attack
Interesting. Close to 200 East 3rd listers have upwards of 4 years earlier DOH's (2004-2008) vs. the most junior pre-merger West F/O's DOH in 2008 and had Group IV access to boot, yet are junior to all West F/O's ?

It will be interesting to see how the arbs rationalized that one.
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Old 07-21-2016, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Interesting. Close to 200 East 3rd listers have upwards of 4 years earlier DOH's (2004-2008) vs. the most junior pre-merger West F/O's DOH in 2008 and had Group IV access to boot, yet are junior to all West F/O's ?

It will be interesting to see how the arbs rationalized that one.
I assumed you meant pilots hired after the merger announcement which are holding equal seats as west fo's
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