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Old 07-21-2016, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
The east was usapa and usapa is the east, everyone involved is keenly aware. The west made a strategic decision not to pursue the blatant violation of the 9ths order. Now you think the 9ths decision has zero effect on the boa? Good luck with that
Usapa is gone who are you gonna sue? Captain sully???
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
The east was usapa and usapa is the east, everyone involved is keenly aware. The west made a strategic decision not to pursue the blatant violation of the 9ths order. Now you think the 9ths decision has zero effect on the boa? Good luck with that
You are wrong on that again, just as you have been hundreds of times before. I can assure you that the east merger committee was NOT USAPA. Many of us were amazed that our APA reps that were former USAPA reps put them on the committee.

So, if this panel says no Nic, will you honor binding arbitration and not sue? If not then you are the biggest hypocrite in the nation.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
I admit I don't know much about the bottom but I will simplify I don't believe any east fo or west fo should go below a 3rd lister or flow through on any part
And they won't. I assume you saw that in your "peak". Flow through's will remain relative to where they were in ragard to 3rd listers.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
And they won't. I assume you saw that in your "peak". Flow through's will remain relative to where they were in ragard to 3rd listers.
West didn't get the nic but they didn't get screwed either. I wasn't for usapa for sometime then I changed after the way I was treated by the west . But in all reality the usapa proposal was fair according to the arbs but the one part it wasn't was 3rd listers over any west pilot I stand on that statement since it came out. Every 3rd listers should be below every west pilot.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Usapa is gone who are you gonna sue? Captain sully???
No one that I know of
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
You are wrong on that again, just as you have been hundreds of times before. I can assure you that the east merger committee was NOT USAPA. Many of us were amazed that our APA reps that were former USAPA reps put them on the committee.

So, if this panel says no Nic, will you honor binding arbitration and not sue? If not then you are the biggest hypocrite in the nation.
We will do whatever it takes to shove the Nic or better down your throat
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
We will do whatever it takes to shove the Nic or better down your throat
I have seen this on multiple boards of shoving the nic down our throats. What's with u guys shoving stuff down people's throats it's kinda wierd....
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
West didn't get the nic but they didn't get screwed either. I wasn't for usapa for sometime then I changed after the way I was treated by the west . But in all reality the usapa proposal was fair according to the arbs but the one part it wasn't was 3rd listers over any west pilot I stand on that statement since it came out. Every 3rd listers should be below every west pilot.
Everyone is going to get screwed. Your painting a victorious slam-dunk picture for the East. Go back and look at your list. Is losing years of DOH as compared to similiar placed pilots a victory? East pilots will end up junior to pilots with similar DOHs. They avoided the NIC but did not get their proposal of 70% LOS weighting either. Tell the whole story. Everyone gets screwed when you look through it. It's just that the East avoided the treachery of the NIC list and after ten years that appears (is) to be a slam-dunk victory.
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
We will do whatever it takes to shove the Nic or better down your throat
If a union didn't outsource the SLI, could it keep some unity of its members? How come it's the pilot union that has the self emmolating groups?
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Old 07-21-2016, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown
Everyone is going to get screwed. Your painting a victorious slam-dunk picture for the East. Go back and look at your list. Is losing years of DOH as compared to similiar placed pilots a victory? East pilots will end up junior to pilots with similar DOHs. They avoided the NIC but did not get their proposal of 70% LOS weighting either. Tell the whole story. Everyone gets screwed when you look through it. It's just that the East avoided the treachery of the NIC list and after ten years that appears (is) to be a slam-dunk victory.
Your right not 70% los it was 55% thanks tho!
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