SO - Where's the SLI?
07-14-2016, 10:42 PM
#471
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They probably will. In 2005, back when I was working on my CFII, Phoenix and Las Vegas were the absolute rock stars of all hubs in the US. America West Airlines almost ruled those hubs -- except for SWA, who essentially allowed AWA to exist because they had bigger fish to fry. ANYWAY, focus here on the massive revenue potential of Phoenix and Las Vegas and don't let logic get in the way, and you'll see that George Nicolau was right to look into the future and see that AWA pilots would soon be flying A330's all over the northern hemisphere. Conveniently, and with a lot of help from GE and Air Canada and other investors organized by US Airways management and not Doug Parker, AWA merged with US Airways, who actually did that type of flying! It was, uh, how should we say? Serendipitous! And it made Nicolau's job super easy: Just afford the AWA pilots the right to seniority dates they could have never naturally attained (because they coincided with their graduation from 8th grade. Hey, that's an important ceremony!), and in short order the entire AWA pilot group would occupy the top half of the US Air list. Sounds about right for these aviators. After all...REMEMBER....they were flying in and out of PHX and LAS, day in and day out, hot, sweaty professionals generating revenues untold! (That's code for "good accounting.")
Furthermore, Nicolau looked even further into the future and saw that placing US Airways pilots hired in 1989 junior to the America West pilots hired in 2005 would be perfectly appropriate when the combined airline's management would be tapped by the brain trust of the Allied Pilots Association to run their troubled, archaic airline out of bankruptcy and up out of the ditch next to the dead-end road that was Horton's business plan.
Nothing says "Fair and Equitable" better in this scenario than an entire party being awarded the ability to hold Captain positions at the new combined carrier, especially and because of the reality that the pilot group in question used to be the number two carrier at...where?....that's right: Phoenix and Las Vegas! High rollers to Palace Station! Food connoisseurs to the Luxor! It was only a matter of time before America West Airlines placed a BIG order for 330/350/777/787 aircraft to handle the emerging global demand for that special thing they and they alone brought to the industry. Some called it Glendale Goodness, some Mesa Magnificence, some just good ol' Desert Hospitality, but no matter what you called it, it was just something special, an intangible that made it clear: This airline was going places! (Like Kansas City.)
So, sure, the panel is probably going to choose the NIC. Duh!
Furthermore, Nicolau looked even further into the future and saw that placing US Airways pilots hired in 1989 junior to the America West pilots hired in 2005 would be perfectly appropriate when the combined airline's management would be tapped by the brain trust of the Allied Pilots Association to run their troubled, archaic airline out of bankruptcy and up out of the ditch next to the dead-end road that was Horton's business plan.
Nothing says "Fair and Equitable" better in this scenario than an entire party being awarded the ability to hold Captain positions at the new combined carrier, especially and because of the reality that the pilot group in question used to be the number two carrier at...where?....that's right: Phoenix and Las Vegas! High rollers to Palace Station! Food connoisseurs to the Luxor! It was only a matter of time before America West Airlines placed a BIG order for 330/350/777/787 aircraft to handle the emerging global demand for that special thing they and they alone brought to the industry. Some called it Glendale Goodness, some Mesa Magnificence, some just good ol' Desert Hospitality, but no matter what you called it, it was just something special, an intangible that made it clear: This airline was going places! (Like Kansas City.)
So, sure, the panel is probably going to choose the NIC. Duh!
Wow. So many lies and falsehoods in one post. I'm amazed at the stunning lack of truth you promulgate.
So, I guess I won the lottery. I'm cool with that. Send me my 777 and 350 manuals ASAP.
07-15-2016, 04:44 AM
#473
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No where in that post did I say you won the lottery, cactusmike. The "award" from 2005 has often been characterized as a winning lottery ticket that was un-cashable, but everyone understands that 11 years in the desert with little or no movement has been no picnic. The light on the horizon, though, is that AWA pilots are soon going to be AA pilots, able to bid for equipment that flies all over the globe, something I doubt was being discussed or even dreamed about when you were hired by America West Airlines. Correct?
07-15-2016, 04:45 AM
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07-15-2016, 05:17 AM
#475
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Even if it means I'll be swinging gear for Relay 
07-15-2016, 09:50 AM
#476
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07-16-2016, 04:27 PM
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They probably will. In 2005, back when I was working on my CFII, Phoenix and Las Vegas were the absolute rock stars of all hubs in the US. America West Airlines almost ruled those hubs -- except for SWA, who essentially allowed AWA to exist because they had bigger fish to fry. ANYWAY, focus here on the massive revenue potential of Phoenix and Las Vegas and don't let logic get in the way, and you'll see that George Nicolau was right to look into the future and see that AWA pilots would soon be flying A330's all over the northern hemisphere. Conveniently, and with a lot of help from GE and Air Canada and other investors organized by US Airways management and not Doug Parker, AWA merged with US Airways, who actually did that type of flying! It was, uh, how should we say? Serendipitous! And it made Nicolau's job super easy: Just afford the AWA pilots the right to seniority dates they could have never naturally attained (because they coincided with their graduation from 8th grade. Hey, that's an important ceremony!), and in short order the entire AWA pilot group would occupy the top half of the US Air list. Sounds about right for these aviators. After all...REMEMBER....they were flying in and out of PHX and LAS, day in and day out, hot, sweaty professionals generating revenues untold! (That's code for "good accounting.")
Furthermore, Nicolau looked even further into the future and saw that placing US Airways pilots hired in 1989 junior to the America West pilots hired in 2005 would be perfectly appropriate when the combined airline's management would be tapped by the brain trust of the Allied Pilots Association to run their troubled, archaic airline out of bankruptcy and up out of the ditch next to the dead-end road that was Horton's business plan.
Nothing says "Fair and Equitable" better in this scenario than an entire party being awarded the ability to hold Captain positions at the new combined carrier, especially and because of the reality that the pilot group in question used to be the number two carrier at...where?....that's right: Phoenix and Las Vegas! High rollers to Palace Station! Food connoisseurs to the Luxor! It was only a matter of time before America West Airlines placed a BIG order for 330/350/777/787 aircraft to handle the emerging global demand for that special thing they and they alone brought to the industry. Some called it Glendale Goodness, some Mesa Magnificence, some just good ol' Desert Hospitality, but no matter what you called it, it was just something special, an intangible that made it clear: This airline was going places! (Like Kansas City.)
So, sure, the panel is probably going to choose the NIC. Duh!
Furthermore, Nicolau looked even further into the future and saw that placing US Airways pilots hired in 1989 junior to the America West pilots hired in 2005 would be perfectly appropriate when the combined airline's management would be tapped by the brain trust of the Allied Pilots Association to run their troubled, archaic airline out of bankruptcy and up out of the ditch next to the dead-end road that was Horton's business plan.
Nothing says "Fair and Equitable" better in this scenario than an entire party being awarded the ability to hold Captain positions at the new combined carrier, especially and because of the reality that the pilot group in question used to be the number two carrier at...where?....that's right: Phoenix and Las Vegas! High rollers to Palace Station! Food connoisseurs to the Luxor! It was only a matter of time before America West Airlines placed a BIG order for 330/350/777/787 aircraft to handle the emerging global demand for that special thing they and they alone brought to the industry. Some called it Glendale Goodness, some Mesa Magnificence, some just good ol' Desert Hospitality, but no matter what you called it, it was just something special, an intangible that made it clear: This airline was going places! (Like Kansas City.)
So, sure, the panel is probably going to choose the NIC. Duh!
Best post on APC in ages!!
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