SO - Where's the SLI?
07-14-2016, 01:05 PM
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07-14-2016, 01:12 PM
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Yes, others have posted that he does designate a DDR on any BOD meeting about the SLI, but not other meetings. I personally hope he does not resign from the BOD. He is a very good influence (except for maybe that one issue with a returning pilot who had been out on medical).
07-14-2016, 01:24 PM
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Yes, others have posted that he does designate a DDR on any BOD meeting about the SLI, but not other meetings. I personally hope he does not resign from the BOD. He is a very good influence (except for maybe that one issue with a returning pilot who had been out on medical).
Interesting. Well, only a few weeks of guessing and rumors to go!
07-14-2016, 01:59 PM
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The east is trying to raise money to fund it's merger committee. You guys got all the USAPA funds frozen. And that other small lawsuit that I don't think is going anywhere.
Same question as cacti...I mean easdof-would you support a west lawsuit if you don't get the Nic?
Same question as cacti...I mean easdof-would you support a west lawsuit if you don't get the Nic?
On the other hand, it's my personal feeling is the East committee will immediately try to delay whatever result occurs because they have been very successful with the delay philosophy so far. I think that's why their USAPA committee walked out...they wanted to pre-load the "we didn't get a fair chance to argue" issue so they can attempt to implicate the process. I'm not sure they will get the chance because the massive benefit the company enjoyed as a result of the East - West delays no longer exist after single FOS. I really can't grasp how Kirby managed to get list release delayed until August but I think it closes as much of the door as possible on a delay. I think we'll be enjoying each others company in the cockpit very soon regardless of who thinks they should be senior to who. I'm honestly looking forward to it. (Edit
Even if it means I'll be swinging gear for Relay 
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07-14-2016, 02:25 PM
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I would absolutely NOT support trying to fight the arbitrated award. While the West was not a party to the creation of the SLI protocol, I think by earning the right to become an involved party after the fact, acceptance of the the process was established. I personally don't think the process itself is unreasonable or unfair, although the attempt at "status quo" was singularly inserted in an attempt to tank the Nic and it was not removable after the fact. I'm not sure there is any true footing to that argument but we'll just have to see how the Arbs interpret it. There is no means to dispute the award, only the process, and I think the goal has been to create an iron-clad, process driven end result. That's why they allowed the West to have an independent committee and they patiently tolerated all the USAPA shenanigans that occurred early on.
On the other hand, it's my personal feeling is the East committee will immediately try to delay whatever result occurs because they have been very successful with the delay philosophy so far. I think that's why their USAPA committee walked out...they wanted to pre-load the "we didn't get a fair chance to argue" issue so they can attempt to implicate the process. I'm not sure they will get the chance because the massive benefit the company enjoyed as a result of the East - West delays no longer exist after single FOS. I really can't grasp how Kirby managed to get list release delayed until August but I think it closes as much of the door as possible on a delay. I think we'll be enjoying each others company in the cockpit very soon regardless of who thinks they should be senior to who. I'm honestly looking forward to it.
On the other hand, it's my personal feeling is the East committee will immediately try to delay whatever result occurs because they have been very successful with the delay philosophy so far. I think that's why their USAPA committee walked out...they wanted to pre-load the "we didn't get a fair chance to argue" issue so they can attempt to implicate the process. I'm not sure they will get the chance because the massive benefit the company enjoyed as a result of the East - West delays no longer exist after single FOS. I really can't grasp how Kirby managed to get list release delayed until August but I think it closes as much of the door as possible on a delay. I think we'll be enjoying each others company in the cockpit very soon regardless of who thinks they should be senior to who. I'm honestly looking forward to it.
07-14-2016, 02:40 PM
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I actually considered PM-ing you a screenshot of the AWAPPA board (That's the AWA pilot's web board for those who don't know). The is NO discussion at all of what do as a result of the award because no one who has seen the award will even hint at the result. For the most part, the members of the committee haven't posted AT ALL, even on topics that have nothing to do the integration.
07-14-2016, 03:35 PM
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I would absolutely NOT support trying to fight the arbitrated award. While the West was not a party to the creation of the SLI protocol, I think by earning the right to become an involved party after the fact, acceptance of the the process was established. I personally don't think the process itself is unreasonable or unfair, although the attempt at "status quo" was singularly inserted in an attempt to tank the Nic and it was not removable after the fact. I'm not sure there is any true footing to that argument but we'll just have to see how the Arbs interpret it. There is no means to dispute the award, only the process, and I think the goal has been to create an iron-clad, process driven end result. That's why they allowed the West to have an independent committee and they patiently tolerated all the USAPA shenanigans that occurred early on.
On the other hand, it's my personal feeling is the East committee will immediately try to delay whatever result occurs because they have been very successful with the delay philosophy so far. I think that's why their USAPA committee walked out...they wanted to pre-load the "we didn't get a fair chance to argue" issue so they can attempt to implicate the process. I'm not sure they will get the chance because the massive benefit the company enjoyed as a result of the East - West delays no longer exist after single FOS. I really can't grasp how Kirby managed to get list release delayed until August but I think it closes as much of the door as possible on a delay. I think we'll be enjoying each others company in the cockpit very soon regardless of who thinks they should be senior to who. I'm honestly looking forward to it. (Edit Even if it means I'll be swinging gear for Relay
On the other hand, it's my personal feeling is the East committee will immediately try to delay whatever result occurs because they have been very successful with the delay philosophy so far. I think that's why their USAPA committee walked out...they wanted to pre-load the "we didn't get a fair chance to argue" issue so they can attempt to implicate the process. I'm not sure they will get the chance because the massive benefit the company enjoyed as a result of the East - West delays no longer exist after single FOS. I really can't grasp how Kirby managed to get list release delayed until August but I think it closes as much of the door as possible on a delay. I think we'll be enjoying each others company in the cockpit very soon regardless of who thinks they should be senior to who. I'm honestly looking forward to it. (Edit
Even if it means I'll be swinging gear for Relay I've flown with one guy that is involved with the current suit and, if I understood him correctly, he doesn't even give it good odds. I've heard no support for legal action over here.
I'll take your word on the AWAPPA board, no screen shot necessary.
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