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Old 07-12-2016, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertDog
What was used in it's place?

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Didn't get anymore info than I just posted. Nothing has been released yet officially. Just a few small leaks.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertDog
What was used in it's place?

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A date of hire staple job... Known as the Ualocin Award

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Old 07-12-2016, 03:28 PM
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I heard a rumor that the Nicolau was not used and the US east pilots made out much better than the west pilots and American pilots. Not kidding.

No Nic was rumor day one. No use of LAA list also day one... Not that they were necessarily reliable rumors. Never have heard rumor that Nic was in fact used, even by most strident Westies.

It seems the comment period is for leaks, to let off some pressure before the list is revealed. Just like all "big news" the leaks come first so it is "old news" by the time the "reveal" happens.

Still waiting on leak about fences, but at this point the odds on Nic are getting very long.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:42 PM
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At an east union meeting they showed all three SLI proposals and I personally felt as an unbiased viewer the East proposal was the most fair. It wouldn't surprise me in the least when the SLI list comes out that it's more aligned with the East proposal than the west or AA's.

For those not aware of the East proposal and what it entailed basically they frontloaded their seniority because of their massive retirements coming up so they gained more seniority initially and over time the AA and West guys will take over.

Either way the West guys are making out like bandits and while they had to wait a decade to realize the gains they came out with substantial pay raises and career expectation increases.
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Old 07-12-2016, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
At an east union meeting they showed all three SLI proposals and I personally felt as an unbiased viewer the East proposal was the most fair. It wouldn't surprise me in the least when the SLI list comes out that it's more aligned with the East proposal than the west or AA's.

For those not aware of the East proposal and what it entailed basically they frontloaded their seniority because of their massive retirements coming up so they gained more seniority initially and over time the AA and West guys will take over.

Either way the West guys are making out like bandits and while they had to wait a decade to realize the gains they came out with substantial pay raises and career expectation increases.

That seems fair.....if you're on the East.
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
At an east union meeting they showed all three SLI proposals and I personally felt as an unbiased viewer the East proposal was the most fair. It wouldn't surprise me in the least when the SLI list comes out that it's more aligned with the East proposal than the west or AA's.

For those not aware of the East proposal and what it entailed basically they frontloaded their seniority because of their massive retirements coming up so they gained more seniority initially and over time the AA and West guys will take over.

Either way the West guys are making out like bandits and while they had to wait a decade to realize the gains they came out with substantial pay raises and career expectation increases.
How could you be an unbiased viewer at an East union meeting?
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:40 PM
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How could you be an unbiased viewer at an East union meeting?
His screen name isn't FlyinAWA or AAFlagship. He's got that going for him.
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Old 07-12-2016, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
At an east union meeting they showed all three SLI proposals and I personally felt as an unbiased viewer the East proposal was the most fair. It wouldn't surprise me in the least when the SLI list comes out that it's more aligned with the East proposal than the west or AA's.

For those not aware of the East proposal and what it entailed basically they frontloaded their seniority because of their massive retirements coming up so they gained more seniority initially and over time the AA and West guys will take over.

Either way the West guys are making out like bandits and while they had to wait a decade to realize the gains they came out with substantial pay raises and career expectation increases.
I have no doubt at an East Union meeting the East SLI proposal was met with a chorus of near hypnotic "harrumphs". Likewise for a West and LAA meeting.
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AAFlagship
How could you be an unbiased viewer at an East union meeting?
It could just be that he's a 3rd lister. (Or 4th or 5th or whatever we're called now.) Of course, some would have it that we've been brainwashed by our East co-workers...
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
At an east union meeting they showed all three SLI proposals and I personally felt as an unbiased viewer the East proposal was the most fair. It wouldn't surprise me in the least when the SLI list comes out that it's more aligned with the East proposal than the west or AA's.

For those not aware of the East proposal and what it entailed basically they frontloaded their seniority because of their massive retirements coming up so they gained more seniority initially and over time the AA and West guys will take over.

Either way the West guys are making out like bandits and while they had to wait a decade to realize the gains they came out with substantial pay raises and career expectation increases.
Lol. So placing 3rd listers in front of pre merger West guys seemed "fair" to you? You better rethink your "unbiasedness"
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