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Old 07-08-2016, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by esadof
The process was clear, 15 day comment period.
What's your obsession with clarity all of a sudden. You refuse to identify which committee is "abusing" the comment period (no concern for clarity in your speculation). You don't have any issue with the BOD or confirmation that the BOD has in fact granted any extension (no concern for clarity in your speculation).

You are all butt hurt that an unknown committee has allegedly abused the comment period by asking for and receiving a forty day extention on the comment period.

You are very animated about something you supposedly know so little about and really have no confirmation about.

Your passion seems inexplicably to outpace you actual knowledge of the circumstances.

It seems more plausible that you are passionate because you know something (distasteful to you), that you refuse to be clear about. It's hard to have sympathy for such obscurity.

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Old 07-08-2016, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
What's your obsession with clarity all of a sudden. You refuse to identify which committee is "abusing" the comment period (no concern for clarity in your speculation). You don't have any issue with the BOD or confirmation that the BOD has in fact granted any extension (no concern for clarity in your speculation).

You are all butt hurt that an unknown committee has allegedly abused the comment period by asking for and receiving a forty day extention on the comment period.

You are very animated about something you supposedly know so little about and really have no confirmation about.

Your passion seems inexplicably to outpace you actual knowledge of the circumstances.

It seems more plausible that you are passionate because you know something (distasteful to you), that you refuse to be clear about. It's hard to have sympathy for such obscurity.
I know as much as you do, nothing more. Just tired of all the BS hoisted at the west pilots
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Old 07-09-2016, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
I know as much as you do, nothing more. Just tired of all the BS hoisted at the west pilots
Obviously not true. I don't know what you know.

I have no knowledge whatsoever of any "comment period abuse" or delay causing "BS hoisted at the west pilots". As far as I know the BOA is imminently fair and efficient. You on the other hand are nearly apoplectic about something you obviously know, yet you feign ignorance.

Are you now saying that one of the three committees causing the "abuse" is the LAA or East committee, and not the West committee?

If you want to cry on our shoulder you at least need to be honest about what you know/what is bothering you.
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Old 07-09-2016, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
I know as much as you do, nothing more. Just tired of all the BS hoisted at the west pilots
No BS. The West pilots are the ONLY group going to come out unscathed. Crap airline with crap pay and benefits dragging down the industry since inception. They will now have access to a global network with massive increases to their compensation, and even at the bottom of the list will be light years ahead of where they should be. The list will treat them much more fairly than the bottom as well. They are not victims, they are victors, no matter how you slice it.
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Old 07-09-2016, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
No BS. The West pilots are the ONLY group going to come out unscathed. Crap airline with crap pay and benefits dragging down the industry since inception. They will now have access to a global network with massive increases to their compensation, and even at the bottom of the list will be light years ahead of where they should be. The list will treat them much more fairly than the bottom as well. They are not victims, they are victors, no matter how you slice it.
At LAA we have pilots that were hired young in the mid-80s under B-scale. They signed up for one (much less attractive) thing and ended up having the kind of career that most of us would dream about having. You never know it's going to go. Yeah, West pilots stumbled into something far beyond the airline they were hired into, but they aren't the first.
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Old 07-09-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
No BS. The West pilots are the ONLY group going to come out unscathed. Crap airline with crap pay and benefits dragging down the industry since inception. They will now have access to a global network with massive increases to their compensation, and even at the bottom of the list will be light years ahead of where they should be. The list will treat them much more fairly than the bottom as well. They are not victims, they are victors, no matter how you slice it.
Have u seen the list?
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:10 AM
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Lucky - in the mid 80's every surviving legacy airline had young guys hired. The same opportunity exists for the current younger new hires. The West guys, due to their age, will do ok as Blaine mentioned.

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Old 07-09-2016, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Have u seen the list?
I have. Your number 17
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BlaineFaban
No BS. The West pilots are the ONLY group going to come out unscathed. Crap airline with crap pay and benefits dragging down the industry since inception. They will now have access to a global network with massive increases to their compensation, and even at the bottom of the list will be light years ahead of where they should be. The list will treat them much more fairly than the bottom as well. They are not victims, they are victors, no matter how you slice it.
You got no clue. You have to hired at 10 years old to survive a 10 year stagnation illegally hoisted upon you by a criminal group of thugs. No west pilot will ever recover the losses under any circumstance, not enough time left for any of us.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by esadof
You got no clue. You have to hired at 10 years old to survive a 10 year stagnation illegally hoisted upon you by a criminal group of thugs. No west pilot will ever recover the losses under any circumstance, not enough time left for any of us.
I got news for you, AWA wasn't the center of the aviation universe. It was only a matter of time until they succumbed to SWA. Failure after failure after failure of an airline. Then the govt stepped in to save them. Everyone lost after 9/11. I for one am impressed with the East ability to work the system. Its not the way I would have done it, but the change in ALPA merger procedure, and the way mergers have gone since show that there was the possibility of another US/AWA with the way the rules were written. Tough luck for you, but you ain't the first and you certainly won't be the last.

As long as the merger system has subjectivity in it, there will be winners and losers. My opinion is that AWA hit the lottery, no matter the outcome of the SLI, and actually hit the lottery twice by being anywhere but the bottom of the new list.

You disagree, and the world will keep spinning. I would have loved to see an AWA/Allegiant merger and seen the arguments of the West committee--and the Allegiant committee for that matter.
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