SO - Where's the SLI?
09-03-2016, 01:46 PM
#1931
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You still haven't answered the question I posed to you.
Are you just not getting it or intentionally ignoring the question?
Everyone understands what was ruled concerning the drafting of the MOU and its consequences, of which the legally mandated requirement to implement the NIC list was not one of them.
So back to my question. Will you not answer it?
09-03-2016, 01:54 PM
#1932
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
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If the BOA uses the Nic then the Nic will be used.
09-03-2016, 02:04 PM
#1933
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 CA
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And there it is. Maybe they will. Maybe they won't. Regardless of who wants what, the arbiters have a tremendous amount of leeway regarding the definition of "fair and reasonable". No matter what outcome, it's hard to imagine a scenario where 2 of the 3 groups won't accuse the Arbs of giving the 3rd a windfall.
09-03-2016, 02:07 PM
#1934
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: A320 CAPT
Posts: 93
True. Here's an exchange between our atty Freund, esteemed Arbitrator Javits and the USAPA Merger Committee Chairman:
In the matter of: Preliminary Arbitration Board APA/USAPA/AA (December 17, 2014)
ARBITRATOR JAVITS: All three lists. I guess the gravamen of the questions is are you then putting yourself in the place of Nicolau, are you the new Nicolau because you are proposing a list which may not reflect Nicolau's list? ….. And American pilots. And, therefore, you're making a proposal, which may be different than what Nicolau had in mind and issued back in '07.
MR. FREUND (in closing): As the Chairman put it so nicely in his questioning of Jess Pauley, what the US -- what the East Committee, the US Airways Committee, the USAPA Committee, call it what you want, what it wants to do is to put itself in the place of George Nicolau and redo what George did in 2007.
Here's a piece from the SLI Arbitration:ARBITRATOR JAVITS: All three lists. I guess the gravamen of the questions is are you then putting yourself in the place of Nicolau, are you the new Nicolau because you are proposing a list which may not reflect Nicolau's list? ….. And American pilots. And, therefore, you're making a proposal, which may be different than what Nicolau had in mind and issued back in '07.
MR. FREUND (in closing): As the Chairman put it so nicely in his questioning of Jess Pauley, what the US -- what the East Committee, the US Airways Committee, the USAPA Committee, call it what you want, what it wants to do is to put itself in the place of George Nicolau and redo what George did in 2007.
Freund: Okay. And would it be fair to say that in looking at this slide, if one were to take the American pilots out, what we would see would be Rick Brown's substituted judgment as the new George Nicolau with respect to the relationship between the East pilots and the West pilots?
09-03-2016, 02:10 PM
#1935
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Position: A320 CAPT
Posts: 93
So.....are you saying that as a member of the AAA Negotiation team you help walk away and give Parker over 3/4 of a BILLION dollars? I think that is what court testimony and MATH shows you gave up. Good for you.
09-03-2016, 02:20 PM
#1936
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Position: A320 CAPT
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5. A330, B767 or similar aircraft that replace the existing A330 and B767 aircraft set forth in Condition 4 that no longer remain in the fleet are "replacement" aircraft within the meaning of Condition 4. All other aircraft, of whatever type, are "new" aircraft, positions on which are to be allocated to the pre-merger US Airways and America West pilot groups, respectively, 2:1 on widebodies and 1:1 on narrow-bodies for a period of four years from the date of this Award. Thereafter, positions are to be allocated pursuant to the Seniority List.
Simple enough for ya?
09-03-2016, 02:28 PM
#1937
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,238
You're insistence of the Nicolau award has keep you and yours in the fish bowl at a cost of even MORE dollars than that. That's what math shows YOU gave up.
Look, you're a loser and your west concubines along with it. We are enjoying the pay and new bids the latest bid got us. Enjoy your life bottom feeder.
09-03-2016, 03:15 PM
#1939
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 194
Esadof,
You still haven't answered the question I posed to you.
Are you just not getting it or intentionally ignoring the question?
Everyone understands what was ruled concerning the drafting of the MOU and its consequences, of which the legally mandated requirement to implement the NIC list was not one of them.
So back to my question. Will you not answer it?
You still haven't answered the question I posed to you.
Are you just not getting it or intentionally ignoring the question?
Everyone understands what was ruled concerning the drafting of the MOU and its consequences, of which the legally mandated requirement to implement the NIC list was not one of them.
So back to my question. Will you not answer it?
09-03-2016, 04:07 PM
#1940
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: A320 Right Seat
Posts: 37
Important Things
"You Suck and are Wrong "
"No, You Suck and are Wrong"
Now that we have distilled these arguments and their conclusions to their simplest essence...lets move on to something more pleasant to divide everyone.. COLLEGE FOOTBALL STARTED TODAY!!!!! Oops OU, that one hurts...and the SEC just covered themselves in Glory today...MSU and LSU...guess it sucks to be a "State University" today....discuss...
"No, You Suck and are Wrong"
Now that we have distilled these arguments and their conclusions to their simplest essence...lets move on to something more pleasant to divide everyone.. COLLEGE FOOTBALL STARTED TODAY!!!!! Oops OU, that one hurts...and the SEC just covered themselves in Glory today...MSU and LSU...guess it sucks to be a "State University" today....discuss...
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