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Old 08-25-2016, 01:39 PM
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Wow, I am flabbergasted that a superior LAA guy would want to come fly on the inferior side, then again maybe they want to show us how it's done.

Until SLI, APA needs to stay the hell away from our list.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:07 PM
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APA is just printing things as a consolation prize.. and of course printing evidence as a defense against a DFR should anyone want more than the generous consolation prize.

"We asked. They said, no."

Move along. Nothing to see here.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
APA is just printing things as a consolation prize.. and of course printing evidence as a defense against a DFR should anyone want more than the generous consolation prize.

"We asked. They said, no."

Move along. Nothing to see here.
You are a sly one Mr PT.
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Can not wait to see the response now that LAA pilots have voiced their opinion on this subject.

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The only purpose of that was to try and appease you guys. "We asked. They said no. Now hush!"
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Old 08-25-2016, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
The only purpose of that was to try and appease you guys. "We asked. They said no. Now hush!"
Could be that was it and maybe it is all in how you read it. I would think if that were the case then after the initial contact by John that would have served as APA's involvement. No I think it's just a little deeper than that. It is rather interesting seeing how some of you are getting all in a twist over it.

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Old 08-25-2016, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Recent Equipment Bid (Vacancy Run)

“We’ve got to make decisions to protect the bottom line.”
— AAG COO Robert Isom
Upon being informed by the Company of its intent to initiate the most recent LUS equipment bid (vacancy run), the APA National Officers and respective domicile officers engaged management in an attempt to open the equipment bid to as many American Airlines pilots as possible by delaying the bid until after “Single FOS Partition” (SFP) and the SLI (Seniority List Integration) decision.
APA’s request was made in order to afford as many American Airlines pilots as possible the opportunity to bid these important seats, equipment, and domiciles. The APA National Officers are well aware that the LUS-West pilots have been isolated from previous LUS equipment bids and understand their desire to have access to each equipment bid.
Unfortunately, APA’s request to delay the equipment bid was denied by management. In fact, at an employee town hall meeting on August 23, 2016, AAG COO Robert Isom addressed a question regarding the equipment bid. He acknowledged that all American Airlines pilots are eager to reap the benefits of the merger’s flying opportunities and that the LUS-West pilots in particular have been “constrained with nobody being able to upgrade,” adding that it is “demoralizing.” Mr. Isom then lamented that December’s schedule increase versus current manning would risk damage to the “bottom line,” adding that “we’ve got to make decisions to protect the bottom line.”
This callous response is yet another example of the myopic vision of management when faced with making decisions that have deep, long-term, negative effects on this airline’s frontline leaders: you, the pilots.
It is APA’s position that this latest equipment bid (vacancy run) should be delayed to allow as many American Airlines pilots as possible the opportunity to participate.
Your APA leadership will not waver from doing all that we can to ensure that ALL American Airlines pilots are afforded the rights and opportunities that we’ve worked so hard to secure through this merger. Whether it be access to equipment bids or realizing the full implementation and protection of each and every contractual provision, we stand unified, and we will not stand silent.

Can not wait to see the response now that LAA pilots have voiced their opinion on this subject.

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Could be that was it and maybe it is all in how you read it. I would think if that were the case then after the initial contact by John that would have served as APA's involvement. No I think it's just a little deeper than that. It is rather interesting seeing how some of you are getting all in a twist over it.

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Could be that was it and maybe it is all in how you read it. I would think if that were the case then after the initial contact by John that would have served as APA's involvement. No I think it's just a little deeper than that. It is rather interesting seeing how some of you are getting all in a twist over it.

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I agree with Whisky Driver. The APA is doubling down on the SLI proposal; not only are they actively trying to staple nearly half of all the east pilot group, now they are trying to rescind our last and final bid, while of course not even mentioning the monthly bids LAA has! Talk about turning the fire hoses on us.

We are pretty much down and out at this point. What did they say? They "wouldn't stand by silently" or some such thing? So, I wonder just how far they are going to take this?


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Old 08-25-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Keep grasping at those straws! You might actually get one someday!
I find your sarcasm rather telling. See to me you seem worried and all I did was politely respond to your post. I don't really care about an east bid and never have. APA did this for a reason and I can tell you that it was not to appease the west pilots. Like you in the east they couldn't care less about west pilots beyond their ability to pay dues and pad the bottom of the SLI. There is something more to their doing this and it's apparent to anyone paying attention.

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Old 08-25-2016, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Saul Rosenberg
I agree with Whisky Driver. The APA is doubling down on the SLI proposal; not only are they actively trying to staple nearly half of all the east pilot group, now they are trying to rescind our last and final bid, while of course not even mentioning the monthly bids LAA has! Talk about turning the fire hoses on us.

We are pretty much down and out at this point. What did they say? They "wouldn't stand by silently" or some such thing? So, I wonder just how far they are going to take this?


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Now hold on here, you are taking this to whole new level and that's mainly due to your seeing only that with which you want to see. Take your east hat off for a moment and really think about why they have done it. Its not about trying to staple anyone as that was something far beyond their control. Read the words and really just think about it and then ask yourself why.

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