SO - Where's the SLI?
08-24-2016, 03:29 PM
#1651
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Oh, such drama, such large font, such a lame and childish post. David, you know as well as I do that DOH adjusted for furlough time equals LOS. And that's what is written above in your cut-and-paste. So, even though you used capital letters, there's no proving anyone wrong. In fact, you just cut/pasted something that proved me RIGHT. Are you losing your mind? Is the water in fishbowl low on oxygen? Better take a few hits off the mask next time you fly.
08-24-2016, 03:33 PM
#1652
On the 1st tee
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08-24-2016, 03:51 PM
#1653
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Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: A330
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"Dude", I know you probably spend most of your days quoting old meaningless transcripts looking for revenge on the terrible east pilots. I like many live in the real world that enjoyed close to 10 years of date of hire (eye opening). There will be no cutting in line this time and that seems to really bother you having to wait your turn.
08-24-2016, 04:15 PM
#1654
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Well, 2 of the 3 committees did proffer that the Nicolau List should be the starting point with the Legacy US Airways pilots. So, it's not like it's been thrown out.
I'm curious why the EPSIC chose to argue a relative seniority when USAPA's "gold standard" was DOH. By using relative seniority, they argue that a "third lister" should be senior to a PHX based US Airways pilot by a BUNCH. Now.....where have I heard that complaint before??
I'm curious why the EPSIC chose to argue a relative seniority when USAPA's "gold standard" was DOH. By using relative seniority, they argue that a "third lister" should be senior to a PHX based US Airways pilot by a BUNCH. Now.....where have I heard that complaint before??
08-24-2016, 05:09 PM
#1655
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Position: A320 Capt
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'
The America West Proposal
America West's initial proposal differed dramatically from that of
US Airways. As previously indicated, its position, when first presented
in detail, was a series of ratios accompanied with a two year condition and restriction reserving to US Airways pilots all Captain positions on the 9 A330 aircraft flying international routes as of May 19, 2005. The firat proposed ratio was not Captain to Captain. Instead, America West added to its 855 Captains an additional 114 First Officers, who, America West claimed, expected captaincies based on the 19 A320s on firm order as of May 2005. That combined figure (969) was to beintegrated on a straight ratio basis with 1121 US Airways Captains, a number derived from staffing assumptions based on what 'were 221 US Airways aircraft as of February 2006. This ratio would be followed by an integration of the remaining America West First Officers (925) with 1051 US Airways First Officers, also on a straight ratio basis. After the reinsertion of those on extended medical leaves and those in nonflying positions, this would put 2431 US Airways pilots on the bottom of the list, 959 of whom were active pilots as of May 19, 2005 with the
remaining 1472 furloughees."
Don't take my word for it, read it for yourself at cactuspilot.com
08-24-2016, 05:12 PM
#1656
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Position: A320 Capt
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"Here we feel that can be done, and that is what we propose the arbitration panel should do. Is to integrate the two seniority lists on the basis of date of hire, adjusted for furlough time that any pilot had through May 19, 2005, the date of the announcement of the merger, subject to temporary conditions and restrictions."
December 4, 2006. Page 20 of the AWA/AAA SLI Arbitration - Opening Statements from Atty Dan Katz.
I'm curious. Do we have to PROVE YOU WRONG just this ONCE, or will we have to do it EVERY SINGLE STINKIN' TIME?
December 4, 2006. Page 20 of the AWA/AAA SLI Arbitration - Opening Statements from Atty Dan Katz.
I'm curious. Do we have to PROVE YOU WRONG just this ONCE, or will we have to do it EVERY SINGLE STINKIN' TIME?
08-24-2016, 05:14 PM
#1657
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08-24-2016, 05:58 PM
#1658
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Eric is a 2003 hire for america west. He kept cactusboy from a captain slot for 10 years. His 2012 video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty_cyOKzEF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty_cyOKzEF4
08-24-2016, 06:02 PM
#1659
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Ken Holmes was a USAPA negotiation rep that told the west pilots to vote for the new American Airlines contract that included 10H. He brags about his negotiating experience in the past when running for a 2012 USAPA rep position. He was not able to provide proof of a 90 day contract promise he accuses USAPA of. He lied.
http://www.fergusonforpresident.com/...01_08FEB12.pdf
Last edited by airmailpilot; 08-24-2016 at 06:17 PM.
08-24-2016, 06:34 PM
#1660
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alpa was attemping tilting the future eventual ual, US Airways at the time, sli in their favor.
Nice try porky pig look alike prater and united pilots gillen and brucia.
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/nico...Transcript.pdf
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