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Old 08-22-2016, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Russell
Regardless of the assertions, claims or representations pilots make this is the real truth when the false veneer is scratched off. It's why each committee made wildly different integration proposals and why not one pilot advocates for another committees proposal.

Everything else is complete and total B.S.
In the AW/US merger, US ALPA wanted LOS. You guys said that LOS or anything DOH related was outdated and of no value. Fast forward to last year. The east merger committee largely abandons LOS/DOH as you guys recommend, and they are hypocrites. Veneer you said?

I'd say a false veneer is claiming in 2005 that LOS doesn't matter, it's where you are on the list on a given date, then changing to a LOS/category and status and using east LOS!

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Old 08-22-2016, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Yes or no works. I'll ask it another way, would you support more litigation going forward?
Good luck.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:26 AM
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I asked Wiskey for clarification and received a lecture about nasty, divisive rhetoric.....CLASSIC. And I'm sure the irony of that goes right over his head.


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Old 08-22-2016, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Russell
I rest my case.

You are arguing why you are right and others wrong. Pilots always rationalize their beliefs one way or another even when unfounded. A perfect example is you assuming I'm a West pilot and basing the rationalization of your latest assertions, claims and representations on subjective foundations.

I'm not a West pilot.
Okay, my apologies. I'll take your word that you aren't a westie, I just find it amazing that guys outside this waste their time.
Anyway, people, not just pilots, do that. You are doing the same thing. The east adjusted it's position after realizing that DOH alone has been abandoned for pilots. Instead of recognising a good move, you assign other motives.

What's your motive/interest in this if not an east/west pilot? Be honest with us and yourself.
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:59 AM
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Jack,

Do you think that proposing a LOS/ category status SLI, then using east LOS isn't just looking out for the west? Fair?
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
In the AW/US merger, US ALPA wanted LOS. You guys said that LOS or anything DOH related was outdated and of no value. Fast forward to last year. The east merger committee largely abandons LOS/DOH as you guys recommend, and they are hypocrites. Veneer you said?

I'd say a false veneer is claiming in 2005 that LOS doesn't matter, it's where you are on the list on a given date, then changing to a LOS/category and status and using east LOS!

Integrity.
R57,

Don't you see the hypocracy in your posts? It's time for everyone to move on, that just doesn't mean the West pilots. You continue to argue history. Who cares. It's just that, history.

I'm watching East pilots continue to attack West pilots while simultaneously telling the West pilots to get over it. A fire only burns if you continue to add fuel to it.

The award will come out in a few weeks. The loser has to understand the fight is over and it's time to move on. The victor needs to be thankful after nearly a decade of struggles the outcome has been decided to their benefit but it's time to collectively move on.

Their are several East pilots who post on this forum that are just as bad, and in some respects worse than the West pilots they are criticizing.

We are all adults. Highly educated. Professional airlines pilots. Why can't we act like it instead of acting like a bunch of immature teenagers?

We don't know which side will be the victors concerning the NIC award. We also don't know which pilots will come onto this forum rubbing unnecessary salt into the wounds as they sophomorically boast of their gallant victory that will only show to us all who the real childish hypocrites are.

Win, lose or draw, ALL must quietly move on. Unfortunately, we all know kids will be kids.

As you signed off, it's all about integrity. Let's see who shows some.
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Yes or no works. I'll ask it another way, would you support more litigation going forward?
I won't but again this is not the question you need be asking.

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Old 08-22-2016, 05:41 AM
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Watching the west try to use the easts los was almost as sad as them screaming they would never pay dues to usapa. We all know how that turned out for them..
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Old 08-22-2016, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Rosenberg
I asked Wiskey for clarification and received a lecture about nasty, divisive rhetoric.....CLASSIC. And I'm sure the irony of that goes right over his head.


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The point, my point has been made. In the future if you don't like the answers maybe you should cease asking the questions.

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Old 08-22-2016, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
I won't but again this is not the question you need be asking.

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Uh i don't know what cryptic questions I should be asking..
I seem to disagree with you since you encourage your fellow employees to raise hell if this doesn't go your way (nic). You should be ashamed creating division. With the amount of money you spent on leonidas donations your wife could have a German car rather than Japanese.
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