SO - Where's the SLI?
08-17-2016, 11:04 AM
#1401
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Once the arbitrators who are acting under the MB legislation rule it no longer matters what happened in the past. There is no possible way their decision will be overruled by a court of law. They have been way to diligent and they are acting under congressional legislation.
You can argue about history until you are blue in the face, but you won't change the history and your not going to change another person's opinion. Particularly opinions that have been had for the past nine years.
There are about 13,000 plus pilots that hope everyone sees the futility in continuing this Hatfield-McCoy feud any longer. Once the arbs rule, win or lose, it's over.
For the sake of those that are tired of hearing this broken record and for the sake of your own sanity (including those around you), move on.
You can argue about history until you are blue in the face, but you won't change the history and your not going to change another person's opinion. Particularly opinions that have been had for the past nine years.
There are about 13,000 plus pilots that hope everyone sees the futility in continuing this Hatfield-McCoy feud any longer. Once the arbs rule, win or lose, it's over.
For the sake of those that are tired of hearing this broken record and for the sake of your own sanity (including those around you), move on.
WD
08-17-2016, 01:16 PM
#1402
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You have to let it go and so does everyone else. Once the award is released it's over.
It's like a cancer, it's eating your insides out. Just from reading your posts its apparent it's affecting you beyond what it should. Not sure if that's due to your complete hatred towards the East or because you were personally involved in the fight in some West position in the past (thought I read you were in some West representative role before).
Life is full of unfair or unjust results.
How do you think the creditors felt during the America West BKs when their contracts they had with AW were torn up and they weren't paid for the services they were owed?
Trump was asked during one of the debates why he used BK to avoid debts he owed. His response? Because the United States legal system allows it.
No different than what the East did. There were legal loop holes that existed that allowed them to avoid paying their debts.
You don't like it but no court had the legal authority to force them to implement the NIC and no court had the legal authority to force Trump to pay all his debts.
This is obviously having a very deep impact on you beyond what would be seen as a typical response. You can go through life miserable having it affect your life, your time with family and just your general overall outlook.
If you continue to allow this to affect you this way, one day you'll look back and realize how much of your life you let go by as you wallowed around in misery.
On Septembet 7/8 you'll find out whether you won or lost. After that your and your family's life will be so much better if you realize it really "doesn't matter" in the big scheme of life.
08-17-2016, 04:43 PM
#1404
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08-17-2016, 05:42 PM
#1405
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WD,
You have to let it go and so does everyone else. Once the award is released it's over.
It's like a cancer, it's eating your insides out. Just from reading your posts its apparent it's affecting you beyond what it should. Not sure if that's due to your complete hatred towards the East or because you were personally involved in the fight in some West position in the past (thought I read you were in some West representative role before).
Life is full of unfair or unjust results.
How do you think the creditors felt during the America West BKs when their contracts they had with AW were torn up and they weren't paid for the services they were owed?
Trump was asked during one of the debates why he used BK to avoid debts he owed. His response? Because the United States legal system allows it.
No different than what the East did. There were legal loop holes that existed that allowed them to avoid paying their debts.
You don't like it but no court had the legal authority to force them to implement the NIC and no court had the legal authority to force Trump to pay all his debts.
This is obviously having a very deep impact on you beyond what would be seen as a typical response. You can go through life miserable having it affect your life, your time with family and just your general overall outlook.
If you continue to allow this to affect you this way, one day you'll look back and realize how much of your life you let go by as you wallowed around in misery.
On Septembet 7/8 you'll find out whether you won or lost. After that your and your family's life will be so much better if you realize it really "doesn't matter" in the big scheme of life.
You have to let it go and so does everyone else. Once the award is released it's over.
It's like a cancer, it's eating your insides out. Just from reading your posts its apparent it's affecting you beyond what it should. Not sure if that's due to your complete hatred towards the East or because you were personally involved in the fight in some West position in the past (thought I read you were in some West representative role before).
Life is full of unfair or unjust results.
How do you think the creditors felt during the America West BKs when their contracts they had with AW were torn up and they weren't paid for the services they were owed?
Trump was asked during one of the debates why he used BK to avoid debts he owed. His response? Because the United States legal system allows it.
No different than what the East did. There were legal loop holes that existed that allowed them to avoid paying their debts.
You don't like it but no court had the legal authority to force them to implement the NIC and no court had the legal authority to force Trump to pay all his debts.
This is obviously having a very deep impact on you beyond what would be seen as a typical response. You can go through life miserable having it affect your life, your time with family and just your general overall outlook.
If you continue to allow this to affect you this way, one day you'll look back and realize how much of your life you let go by as you wallowed around in misery.
On Septembet 7/8 you'll find out whether you won or lost. After that your and your family's life will be so much better if you realize it really "doesn't matter" in the big scheme of life.
Move on man. It's work. Stop being so damn angry because it's not ever going to make your life any better.
08-17-2016, 06:04 PM
#1406
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Posts: 171
Yeah, typical how he tries to redirect the focus by saying "the main problem is....." Whisky Driver would be furious if an angry minority group of East pilots were afforded easy access to his personal info for the purpose of mass mailing a glossy propaganda piece.
As an aside, the SS#'s were "embedded" in the spread sheet, and AOL people had to "promise" not to ever use them. The settlement was completely bogus and every East pilot needs to watch their accounts and identity situation very carefully going forward. Especially so if the final (and binding) award is fair and equitable. Fair and equitable is like battery acid to an angry West pilot who has already commanded an A330 in his dreams.
As an aside, the SS#'s were "embedded" in the spread sheet, and AOL people had to "promise" not to ever use them. The settlement was completely bogus and every East pilot needs to watch their accounts and identity situation very carefully going forward. Especially so if the final (and binding) award is fair and equitable. Fair and equitable is like battery acid to an angry West pilot who has already commanded an A330 in his dreams.
08-17-2016, 06:18 PM
#1407
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I completely agree with all this. Whiskey Driver is consumed by this non sense. I'm betting his entire family has to deal with how angry he is also. Not to mention the time he takes away from his loved ones to feed his addiction to the internet forums.
Move on man. It's work. Stop being so damn angry because it's not ever going to make your life any better.
Move on man. It's work. Stop being so damn angry because it's not ever going to make your life any better.
WD
08-17-2016, 07:01 PM
#1409
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Position: A320 CA
Posts: 669
WD,
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Trump was asked during one of the debates why he used BK to avoid debts he owed. His response? Because the United States legal system allows it.
No different than what the East did. There were legal loop holes that existed that allowed them to avoid paying their debts.
You don't like it but no court had the legal authority to force them to implement the NIC and no court had the legal authority to force Trump to pay all his debts.
***
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Trump was asked during one of the debates why he used BK to avoid debts he owed. His response? Because the United States legal system allows it.
No different than what the East did. There were legal loop holes that existed that allowed them to avoid paying their debts.
You don't like it but no court had the legal authority to force them to implement the NIC and no court had the legal authority to force Trump to pay all his debts.
***
08-17-2016, 08:16 PM
#1410
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Posts: 431
The growth will occur at those bases that can economically support the growth. New hires will be sent to replace retirements as they occur at bases that can economically support its size remaining stable.
Long term I do not see CLT, PHL, DCA,
JFK, MIA, DFW, LAX and ORD as having a problem supporting its "relative current" size.
BOS, STL and PHX I believe will be a different story. To some degree like PIT, LAS, SFO, RDU and BNA these bases will likely either be shrunk further or completely closed at some point. With PHX being more likely for shrinkage and not closure anytime soon.
Why? The same reason MEM doesn't exist at DAL and CLE was downsized at UAL. As the synergies and networks of the carriers are combined the stand alone economics of a base are much different than the combined economics.
In the end, pilots, and to some degree management, don't determine whether a base remains operational, economics do.
So yes, I would have no problem if the company would "jam" things up for a few years. In fact on a selfish level I would be very pleased. However, as I've said before I would prefer we just get this all behind us and all move on.
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