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Old 06-25-2016, 03:43 AM
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Old 06-25-2016, 05:15 AM
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And "Our group didn't have a representative committee."(TWA, Reno, MDA, etc. etc.)

And "We will never settle. We will sue and win. It's Nic or Nothing, and we have a new $675 tie." (The 2004-hire Phoenix pilots)

And "I got robbed of my 330 Capt slot." (The 2001-hire Phoenix pilot)

And "What the H e l l did the arbitrator not get? SUPERIOR was a freaking understatement of our awesomeness." (The Eagle flow through)
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
And "Our group didn't have a representative committee."(TWA, Reno, MDA, etc. etc.)

And "We will never settle. We will sue and win. It's Nic or Nothing, and we have a new $675 tie." (The 2004-hire Phoenix pilots)

And "I got robbed of my 330 Capt slot." (The 2001-hire Phoenix pilot)

And "What the H e l l did the arbitrator not get? SUPERIOR was a freaking understatement of our awesomeness." (The Eagle flow through)
.....and to be fair, let's not forget, "the binding arbitration we agreed to wasn't binding". (The East USAPA pilot).
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:23 AM
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.....and to be fair, let's not forget, "the binding arbitration we agreed to wasn't binding". (The East USAPA pilot).
OR

the Brexit that wasn't meant to be an actual exit.
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:53 AM
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the Brexit that wasn't meant to be an actual exit.
...or "since apples and oranges are both fruit, they are identical for my argument of choice".
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
.....and to be fair, let's not forget, "the binding arbitration we agreed to wasn't binding". (The East USAPA pilot).
It was binding, when all stipulated conditions were met.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
...or "since apples and oranges are both fruit, they are identical for my argument of choice".
Or this..."We so graciously doubled there pay and the panel didn't staple them!!!!!"
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO
It was binding, when all stipulated conditions were met.
Then it would have been termed Conditional Arbitration. None of the parties anticipated the lengths one side would go to, to thwart that binding arbitration. The ONLY reason those conditions were never met was due to the seniority arbitration award and a successful end run strategy around it. The blame for the conditions never being met is upon the same entity who successfully subverted the process around it in the first place specifically for that purpose and result.

Parker and APA learned from that and I think that is a major reason USAPA was snubbed and then neutered. Had they not been, should this SLI not be to their liking, you could be sure history would have attempted to repeat itself, not by a 2-1 back alley end run mugging, but by other efforts by a then non-defunct party, which is now essentially defunct.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Then it would have been termed Conditional Arbitration. None of the parties anticipated the lengths one side would go to, to thwart that binding arbitration. The ONLY reason those conditions were never met was due to the seniority arbitration award and a successful end run strategy around it. The blame for the conditions never being met is upon the same entity who successfully subverted the process around it in the first place specifically for that purpose and result.

Parker and APA learned from that and I think that is a major reason USAPA was snubbed and then neutered. Had they not been, should this SLI not be to their liking, you could be sure history would have attempted to repeat itself, not by a 2-1 back alley end run mugging, but by other efforts by a then non-defunct party, which is now essentially defunct.
Any agreement that has conditions that have to be met prior to implementation is conditional.

You know the west could have held this thing up too, right?
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Any agreement that has conditions that have to be met prior to implementation is conditional.
I'll never be able to rationalize the logic that success in finding a way to subvert binding arbitration makes it unbindling.

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You know the west could have held this thing up too, right?
Sure, but they didn't come in with a history of unilaterally declaring binding arbitrations conditional after the fact. Again, it's why USAPA was flushed.
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