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Old 03-07-2016, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ATR35
Standard crying and whining....
You guys are great at claiming victory early.
The debate about implementing RR to the east was the latest.
You see. This is awesome. I offer court & legal documentation, you recover with the above. Sky is BLUE.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBigWood
$5.5M divided by 3500 East pilots is $1571. That is a small price to pay to delay the NIC for 10 years or possibly forever. Enjoy your victory West Pilots.
You know, you really should include ALL of the wages you gave up to remain on LOA 93, AND all of the additional vacation, time off, full pay @ DH, MX & Cancellation if you really want to tell us what a small price you paid for the delay of the Nicolau list. Just sayin'
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusboy53
You know, you really should include ALL of the wages you gave up to remain on LOA 93, AND all of the additional vacation, time off, full pay @ DH, MX & Cancellation if you really want to tell us what a small price you paid for the delay of the Nicolau list. Just sayin'
And you include all the wages you gave up stuck in the fish bowl. Do that and we will still be in the same place.
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusboy53
IF the BOA issues a seniority list that first begins with the Nicolau List as the beginning point for the LUS, and IF they use something close to what the WPSIC opined, and IF the BOA chooses to fence B787 (as requested by APASIC)/A350's, then MOST (if not ALL) of the now chosen PHX Check Airmen would most certainly be able to hold group 4 with NO trouble what so ever.

There are NO check airmen that were involved in the "Ansett" deal, and there really aren't that many remaining here (LESS than 1%)....so you might want to get over that.

Remember, the former Merger Committee for US Air opined the following in a "US AIRWAVES" publication:

“…The Arbitration Board conducts an evidentiary hearing, with witnesses, evidence and a stenographic transcript. The Board’s Opinion and Award are to be issued simultaneously, within 150 days following the PID, unless both pilot groups and ALPA’s President agree to an extension. The Merger Policy provides, “The Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties to the arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.” No ALPA seniority integration arbitration result has ever been set aside by the courts although some dissatisfied pilots have challenged the award before administrative agencies and the courts.”


US Airwaves June/July 2000
US Air Merger Committee Members: Todd Cardoza (PIT), Mike Cleary (BOS),Randy Mowery (PIT)


A quote from one of the most hated guys dated 2000. Wow, clean out the your hard drive. Even I only go back to 2005.
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:27 AM
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So, both sides are saying everyone lost. I agree.
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
So, both sides are saying everyone lost. I agree.

Yeah but what's really, really important is that the other side really stupid, not just a little stupid.
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Yeah but what's really, really important is that the other side really stupid, not just a little stupid.
Is my sarcasm detector broken or are you arguing about who's... more stupider.
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Is my sarcasm detector broken or are you arguing about who's... more stupider.
Check your detector. I think we were, collectively, the stupidest pilot group in the nation. Cactusboy thinks he was smart.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Yeah but what's really, really important is that the other side really stupid, not just a little stupid.
You see, there you go confusing facts with your OPINION. All we were doing is DEFENDING ourselves from attacks, persecution, & prosecution. There was NO legal avenue to allow us to negotiate AWAY from the product of a mutually agreed upon process. There was an avenue for the East pilots to proceed forward: Stay with ALPA, keep your word, remain at the bargaining table & get a new contract, RETURN to the bargaining table and get ANOTHER CONTRACT, and then perhaps MERGE with DAL with the first merger "attempt".

Failing to do so, was beyond STUPID. IF the BOA award includes the Nicolau List as the beginning point for the LUS pilots, you will have won nothing but DELAY. Costing EVERY SINGLE pilot on this property money that was used to do the LAA/LUS merger.

Sweet!!
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
So, both sides are saying everyone lost. I agree.
LUS is the take-away winners in all of this. They played the US Air pilots like a Stradivarius.
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