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Old 04-12-2016, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
For all its faults, USAPA saw the value of the west's long rate and TA'ed that. What does that say about the APA?
Long rate ?
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:59 PM
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Long rate ?
(Head smack) You guys really didn't look at what we had, did you.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 PM
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(Head smack) You guys really didn't look at what we had, did you.
Nope. To what end though ?
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Extra min day for 24+ RON
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
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I see.

Be that as it may though, personally I didn't need to look at what the West (or East) had. I saw enough of what was in (or as importantly NOT in) the low-ball buyoff and was against it. Unfortunately, the majority were satisfied and thus since it's pointless to argue about what cannot be changed, we are where we are which is a dot in Delta/United pilots rear view mirrors in the Compensation Package 500.

IMO, the race is all but over and 3rd place at the finish line in 2020 will just get us whatever consolation prize Parker wants to hand out to an "also ran". It's what happens when you loosen half your cylinders before the starting flag.

I'm afraid our future is that of being Bronze performers all the way around.
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Old 04-13-2016, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Extra min day for 24+ RON
Would a calendar min day be the same as the long rate? Like how on the East we call a line a block.
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Would a calendar min day be the same as the long rate? Like how on the East we call a line a block.
You average 5:15 for each calendar day on a pairing or block whichever is higher. So our 3 day Hi with 24 hrs layover paid 15:45 even though we only block 11 hrs.
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:01 AM
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Was eaglefly even at AA during the MOU/MTA phase?

Was he one of the committee members that worked on the MOU/MTA?

If he wasn't, especially as a committee member or representative, who cares if he knew about the long rate?
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Was eaglefly even at AA during the MOU/MTA phase?

Was he one of the committee members that worked on the MOU/MTA?

If he wasn't, especially as a committee member or representative, who cares if he knew about the long rate?
Well, he phrased it "you guys", so I think he was referring to LAA pilots collectively. But you're right. No one should care what I knew or didn't know. Now 15,000 pilots will not care what others think when they decide to take what's offered in the future or turn their noses up, at it, ostensibly for years and each one will rationalize their decision to make sense to themselves.

Although many will not admit it, we essentially ARE independent contractors. The voting turnouts prove that repeatedly, unfortunate as it is.
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