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Old 03-16-2016, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
No Contract - no list.
It's my assertion you have no valid or applicable response to the questions asked and since pulling a string in your back isn't a coherent rebuttal, I rest my case and wish to thank the court for its favorable ruling.
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow
An airline $200 million away from liquidation in 2009 ?

Hedge fund ? 1 billion in cash we owed with 800 million liquidity?

I'm guessing fodase is one of the America West pilots with only a high school education.
At least you have to give them credit for standing by their word when they agreed to binding arbitration. They took the same risks and also had no guarantees and didn't welch on the deal.

What your statement above has to do with that fact, I have no idea.
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AAFlagship
Those two sentences are not hard to comprehend. Obviously, my seniority at AA cannot be compared to your apparently lofty seniority, but my career expectations were way better until the merger with USAirways came along.
Did that career expectation include L-AA not hiring in over a decade, shrinking to profitability, on the road to becoming a virtual airline, having an overall financial loss since at least 2008 and most likely shrinking and then furloughing in the absence of the merger?

But how about them pay rates....

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Old 03-16-2016, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Thedude
Did that career expectation include L-AA not hiring in over a decade, shrinking to profitability, becoming a virtual airline, having an overall financial loss since at least 2008 and most likely shrinking and then furloughing in the absence of the merger?

But how about them pay rates....
There's not enough bandwidth to cover the sorry history of USAir/USAirways since the 1990's.

Take two good airlines, Piedmont and PSA and what USAir did to them for starters.

Weren't you the lowest paid legacy airline pilots from 2003 til AA got you a raise?

How many pilots did USAir furlough after September 11? How long were they furloughed?

How many jobs were outsourced to regional partners at USAirways?

Didn't Doug sell your E190 fleet to make ends meet?

Didn't USAirways declare CH11 bankruptcy not once, but twice?

Didn't ALPA at USAirways help you terminate your pension plan?

Yeah, you've got a lot to be proud of. Good thing Doug Parker came along and righted your ship. He's not highly regarded here, but then I guess you tried to warn us. Nice to work for a wildly profitable company isn't it?

I know there's more, but I don't have time to write a term paper..
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AAFlagship
There's not enough bandwidth to cover the sorry history of USAir/USAirways since the 1990's.

Take two good airlines, Piedmont and PSA and what USAir did to them for starters.
Air Cal and Reno
Piedmont takeover was in 1989.

Weren't you the lowest paid legacy airline pilots from 2003 til AA got you a raise?
Happened before I got here and I believe CAL was close.
Admittedly L-US was a ship without a rudder after the failed UAL merger.

How many pilots did USAir furlough after September 11? How long were they furloughed?
I believe it was less than AA (don't have those exact number handy) and L-US was hiring again by 2007.

How many jobs were outsourced to regional partners at USAirways?
How many at AA? Eagle alone grew by leaps and bounds

Didn't Doug sell your E190 fleet to make ends meet?
Happened before I got here and we still have 190s at mainline.

Didn't USAirways declare CH11 bankruptcy not once, but twice?
Thanks to the Loenzo-eqsie type management.
While AA took 25% paycuts to save the company and then a few yrs later hit the BK button.

Didn't ALPA at USAirways help you terminate your pension plan?
And your A and B fund is where now???

Yeah, you've got a lot to be proud of. Good thing Doug Parker came along and righted your ship. He's not highly regarded here, but then I guess you tried to warn us. Nice to work for a wildly profitable company isn't it?
APA was so desperate to get rid of current management, they would damn near do anything.

I know there's more, but I don't have time to write a term paper..
Right back at ya.
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AAFlagship
There's not enough bandwidth to cover the sorry history of USAir/USAirways since the 1990's.

Take two good airlines, Piedmont and PSA and what USAir did to them for starters.

Weren't you the lowest paid legacy airline pilots from 2003 til AA got you a raise?

How many pilots did USAir furlough after September 11? How long were they furloughed?

How many jobs were outsourced to regional partners at USAirways?

Didn't Doug sell your E190 fleet to make ends meet?

Didn't USAirways declare CH11 bankruptcy not once, but twice?

Didn't ALPA at USAirways help you terminate your pension plan?

Yeah, you've got a lot to be proud of. Good thing Doug Parker came along and righted your ship. He's not highly regarded here, but then I guess you tried to warn us. Nice to work for a wildly profitable company isn't it?

I know there's more, but I don't have time to write a term paper..

No dog in this fight but...you guys welcomed him into your home. So good luck with that.



PS-I like my job. Can't wait for this to be over with for everyone.


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Old 03-16-2016, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Are you my D. I. ?

What would this prove ? You state the fact I am an Eagle Flow through pilot, but what does that or my AMR DOH have to do with East ALPA agreeing to Binding arbitration and then reneging on the agreement once the award was revealed ?

Let me guess...........you subscribe to a "date-of-hire" philosophy as it is the foundation of East ALPA/USAPA integration policy and wish to confirm my inferiority under that paradigm ? Considering I'm an Eagle flow-through, it is common belief I'm inferior regardless of my AMR DOH.

But nonetheless, it is in the mid-late 1980's which is the best I can do considering its irrelevancy.
I respect your opinion sir, but I am not giving you my opinion, I may be confusing you with the facts.

ALPA video below, USAPA took over their responsibility and claims;

Your thoughts please sir, on the video and facts I provided.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6TwophNpks
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AAFlagship
Your ALPA represented LUS pilot group agreed to accept the result of binding arbitration. You didn't like the result so you reneged on your agreement.
...........yada...............yada. yada
Please refer to video below sir and provide your thoughts, no contract, no nic. ALPA video states such, USAPA took over the responsibility of their claim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6TwophNpks
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by esadof
$600 million in lost compensation, don't forget that.
west pilot shill, please look at your pontificating, without results, pilot david braid's compensation deficit since the ill fated, non binding nic result.

braid has been f/o, a few numbers from captian since the nic result n 2007.

Your thoughts please sir?
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
At least you have to give them credit for standing by their word when they agreed to binding arbitration. They took the same risks and also had no guarantees and didn't welch on the deal.

What your statement above has to do with that fact, I have no idea.
You are an obvious alpa shill and eagle rep. Are you for alpa or apa now? I guess this may depend on your seniority placement and not your principles, sir.

When you run in to prater, rice and your alpa gravy train contacts, please give them my best. Make sure you tell them this for me;

NICE TRY ALPA!! BOHICA!

Sometimes those that provide such opinions that I do, have their opinions eliminated from a forum. If I am not here next week, carry on with your unadulterated opinions. Best of luck to you.
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