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Old 09-26-2015, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Glad you posted that, it's outrageous and of poor decorum for her to do and say that, definatelly grounds to get her schooled again.
What she said was factual, and about as gracious to the 9th's incompetence as she could be. If the king has no clothes then it aint her fault he is naked. P.S. Tashima ended up having the last word.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
What she said was factual, and about as gracious to the 9th's incompetence as she could be. If the king has no clothes then it aint her fault he is naked. P.S. Tashima ended up having the last word.
yeah, pretty messed up when the losing judge gets last word, what does that say about her order? Let's see the abitrators buy your bs.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
yeah, pretty messed up when the losing judge gets last word.
Uh, that's how it works, right? She said you guys had an opportunity to ask the 9th for clarity and you didn't. Is that true?
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:14 AM
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Uh, that's how it works, right? She said you guys had an opportunity to ask the 9th for clarity and you didn't. Is that true?
That absurd. The motion for en banc hadn't been filed yet. The process wasn't close to being over and the 9ths mandate was 6 weeks from issuance. It's not the prevailing party's job to do the work of a Federal Judge. Silver is a nut case. But in the end. It doesn't matter at all. The arbs were never required to use the Nic regardless, and now the East has been forced to go all in without any ability to litigate when they don't like the outcome. The 9th still boosted the Wests case big time and now it's 2 to1 in favor of the Nic. The two front war has shifted to the East.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Uh, that's how it works, right? She said you guys had an opportunity to ask the 9th for clarity and you didn't. Is that true?
No that's not how it works, the last word should come from winning side, when Conrad enjoyned you for your work action he didn't just enjoin usapa, he enjoyned every us air pilot regardless of usapa membership. It is true she said that, yet more proof of how ridiculous the ruling was. Btw, like Eskimo joe says, doesn't matter, enjoining you would just be a "phyrric victory" for us since the arbs weren't ordered to use Nic. Just chaps me you got away with harming me with no punishment, not even a symbolic one.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
No that's not how it works, the last word should come from winning side, when Conrad enjoyned you for your work action he didn't just enjoin usapa, he enjoyned every us air pilot regardless of usapa membership. It is true she said that, yet more proof of how ridiculous the ruling was. Btw, like Eskimo joe says, doesn't matter, enjoining you would just be a "phyrric victory" for us since the arbs weren't ordered to use Nic. Just chaps me you got away with harming me with no punishment, not even a symbolic one.
What was ridiculous? She did exactly what the 9th majority told her to do. If the 9th majority wanted her to do more they should have told her.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
No that's not how it works, the last word should come from winning side, when Conrad enjoyned you for your work action he didn't just enjoin usapa, he enjoyned every us air pilot regardless of usapa membership. It is true she said that, yet more proof of how ridiculous the ruling was. Btw, like Eskimo joe says, doesn't matter, enjoining you would just be a "phyrric victory" for us since the arbs weren't ordered to use Nic. Just chaps me you got away with harming me with no punishment, not even a symbolic one.
I'm talking about Judge Silver having the last word. The 9th told her that she was wrong, and how to redo her work. She did as THEY said, she just didn't give you the expansion you wanted.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
I'm talking about Judge Silver having the last word. The 9th told her that she was wrong, and how to redo her work. She did as THEY said, she just didn't give you the expansion you wanted.
Ah, misunderstood, yeah she's got last word.
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Laker24
Question for PurpleTurtle, Route66, R57, etc

Did you fare better on the AA proposal or the West proposal? All of my friends flying back east are near the very bottom of the list on the AA proposal.

What's the strategy now? Battle it out or withdraw and try to gum up the whole process via lawsuits?
It's always been about fair and equitable. We negotiated a fair and equitable way forward. Sit back and watch!
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Old 09-26-2015, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
What was ridiculous? She did exactly what the 9th majority told her to do. If the 9th majority wanted her to do more they should have told her.
At the heart of this is the 9th screw up in addington 1.
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