PurpleTurtle

Oh don't be too dramatic. You'll live longer and get to try out more ties than the rest of us geezer who are well past caring about ties.

Upsddown

So let's see if either East or LAA seeks a delay considering Silver's ruling. If they do then it will make total sense.

PurpleTurtle

All parties should have argued based on the status quo that existed at the time they had to submit their proposals, not on the status quo they thought might exist after the highly anticipated Silver Special.

Its such a shame that pilots are tossed into these gladiator brawls for seniority.... people get paid to exponentially explode the whole process and make a sport of SLI. Can you even imagine the number of houses, college loans, and retirements that are funded by these Frankenstein Follies?

If we had real leaders that were willing to actually serve the pilot profession we would have been done with this in one short visit to Starbucks for the afternoon.

cactiboss

Well considering the apa and company wanted her to rule this way to "avoid" further delay I don't see it. Then again she has the gall to rule this way and include procedural incorrect items in the ruling, what do I know?

Upsddown

Of course it doesn't. But if the West attorneys and Committee are saying it has no bearing on the boa weighing of the equities, what they are saying is we are at the same place we were the day East voted to go to USAPA - no legal means to "require" the implementation of the Nic list. It would also seem to imply unless the boa adopts the Nic list in its true form the West proposal begins to disintegrate.

The West proposal now begins to appear like the NWA stance in the DAL/NWA merger and the CAL pilots in the CAL/UAL merger or you could even see similarities with the entrenched DOH stance of the East in the AWA/US merger. It is a position based on a winner take all stance.

Silvers ruling did appear to do one thing. Make this merger about this merger not a previous merger.

PurpleTurtle

The status quo did not change, aside from the fact that the courts finally breathed their last gasp and proclaimed their submission to the BOA. There is no compelling reason to delay so I think it would be ill advised to P.O. the arbs with any request for delay.

Moving forward, finally. As the PAB said, its a new day.

PurpleTurtle

That is pretty close to blasphemy!! No jump seat for you on West metal.

cactiboss

We still have the 9ths ruling and opinion legitimatizing the Nic. Silver's order doesn't diminish that. Bottom line is 9th recognized the Nicolau should have been the list but leaves it up to boa, same case would be true even if east had to argue Nic.

eaglefly

The 9th's ruling actually STRENGTHENED the fact the Nic isn't nor should be universally accepted as a requirement in this SLI. It appears IMO, the AAPSIC simply chose the lessor of two potential threats to APA and chose to reverse course and use it without any further judicial mandate for anyone other then USAPA to do that. Silver just confirmed that in her ruling. Yes, the AAPSIC had many "models" to choose from, but I think their strategic choice now has put junior LAA at great risk of further dilution. The relevant comparison is not with West or East models in validating their revised model, but how it differs from their first proposal based on a non-nic inclusion. I know any dilution by the arbitrators of the AAPSIC's revised model will in effect, result in little appreciable gain for a significant segment of junior LAA (generally those in the mid-senior flow/furlough range) over that of their non-Nic first proposal and what is the primary difference between the two ?

The Nicolau award.

FreighterGuyNow

Beware the group selling you a tie for $750.