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Old 09-13-2015, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
There already is a stake in the ground. It already is fair and equitable, and it was placed there by an Arbitrator you chose and agreed to by formal contract. I think you need to start thinking about how you're going to fund your own litigation.
There are a multitude of facts and circumstances that make up the current status quo, all informing the boa. Their opinions on those facts are known only to them, until they publish their MB award.

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Old 09-13-2015, 02:44 PM
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"We decline to order the issuance of the West Pilots’ requested injunction “that an unmodified Nicolau Award must be used..."
There's an Eskimo here who considers this "complete bull****".

I guess we'll have to get used to it.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
There are a multitude of facts and circumstances that make up the current status quo, all informing the boa. Their opinions on those facts are known only to them, until they publish their MB award.

Good luck!
The only thing "informing" the BOA is a Federal Judge. They don't care. A slot is a slot. It matters not at all whose name appears there.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
There's an Eskimo here who considers this "complete bull****".

I guess we'll have to get used to it.
No. Wrong. I guess you suffer from the same selective understanding as USAPA The injunctions coming down from a Federal Judge aren't a "tactic" as you're suggesting...rather selfishly obviously. It's just the law. That's how this works. The East Pilots didn't fool anyone by using USAPA as an organized crime syndicate and they've been busted. This situation is 10 steps above your pay grade. LAA didn't give two sh**s about USAPA until the merger. Believe me. You don't understand what you're talking about. Spend a decade self funding your defense all the while being forced to pay for your opposition and we'll talk. Until you walk in those shoes, You can swallow your selfish opinions and **** or simply SIUYFA.

LAA is in for an extremely rude awakening If they think USAPA's behavior isn't going to affect them. Keith Wilson said USAPA "wasn't his problem". Guess what Keith....
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SewerPipeDvr
... Years working as regional paid pilots and this SLI (I suspect) will be that price.
Yet you come here wishing you could be a pilot, but you couldn't be one, so you try to put others down, not working.

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Old 09-14-2015, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
No. Wrong. I guess you suffer from the same selective understanding as USAPA The injunctions coming down from a Federal Judge aren't a "tactic" as you're suggesting...rather selfishly obviously. It's just the law. That's how this works. The East Pilots didn't fool anyone by using USAPA as an organized crime syndicate and they've been busted. This situation is 10 steps above your pay grade. LAA didn't give two sh**s about USAPA until the merger. Believe me. You don't understand what you're talking about. Spend a decade self funding your defense all the while being forced to pay for your opposition and we'll talk. Until you walk in those shoes, You can swallow your selfish opinions and **** or simply SIUYFA.

LAA is in for an extremely rude awakening If they think USAPA's behavior isn't going to affect them. Keith Wilson said USAPA "wasn't his problem". Guess what Keith....
....AOL is NOW your PROBLEM. The corporation of AOL OWNS labor unions now. If you can't beat them....JOIN THEM! IT'S EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF. Like Sewerpipedvr (the defunct wannabe pilot ex-lawyer on this board) says: "Still all should have a good career from here on out. Enjoy life, that is the best revenge."

I'm enjoying life, watching the courts decimate the evil labor unions (whether USAPA, APA or ALPA) who are simply dying a slow, painful death.
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Old 09-14-2015, 04:15 AM
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The only union that will be dying a slow painful death is USAPA. It can't happen soon enough. If there's any justice then the officers behind USAPA will soon be bankrupt as well. Enjoy your ill gotten gains while you still can.
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Old 09-14-2015, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Route66
....AOL is NOW your PROBLEM. The corporation of AOL OWNS labor unions now. If you can't beat them....JOIN THEM! IT'S EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF. Like Sewerpipedvr (the defunct wannabe pilot ex-lawyer on this board) says: "Still all should have a good career from here on out. Enjoy life, that is the best revenge."

I'm enjoying life, watching the courts decimate the evil labor unions (whether USAPA, APA or ALPA) who are simply dying a slow, painful death.
AOL is absolutely nothing but the administrative arm of the West pilots legal defense. AOL was created when USAPA was created. The PROBLEM is now, and always has been, the Illegal behavior of the East pilots. You've been busted. Finally. And now, you want to blame the victims. Nice try.

Real, Unified labor unions are doing just fine. Fake, Illegal, stalking horse Unions designed to be used as a weapon against a minority group that operate like organized crime...ie USAPA, They aren't doing to well these days. I hope the West pilots strip every single dime they can for those fake "officers".
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Old 09-14-2015, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
The only thing "informing" the BOA is a Federal Judge. They don't care. A slot is a slot. It matters not at all whose name appears there.
You have a really good handle on the situation. I bet you will be extatcic with how this turns out.
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Old 09-14-2015, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EskimoJoe
No. Wrong. I guess you suffer from the same selective understanding as USAPA The injunctions coming down from a Federal Judge aren't a "tactic" as you're suggesting...rather selfishly obviously. It's just the law. That's how this works. The East Pilots didn't fool anyone by using USAPA as an organized crime syndicate and they've been busted. This situation is 10 steps above your pay grade. LAA didn't give two sh**s about USAPA until the merger. Believe me. You don't understand what you're talking about. Spend a decade self funding your defense all the while being forced to pay for your opposition and we'll talk. Until you walk in those shoes, You can swallow your selfish opinions and **** or simply SIUYFA.

LAA is in for an extremely rude awakening If they think USAPA's behavior isn't going to affect them. Keith Wilson said USAPA "wasn't his problem". Guess what Keith....
Why would LAA pilots "give two sh**s" about Usapa before this merger ?

I could not make heads or tails about the point of your rambling incoherent first paragraph. It sounded like nothing more than frustrated venting, but I get that. As for the second paragraph, that is one of my main points and yet another Westie besides the boat commander confirms exactly that, that being that the West plans to make APA (and thus LAA pilots) the surrogate piñata for past Usapa actions because the old piñata Usapa isn't satisfying to whack anymore as they are all but irrelevant and the remains of the dangling carcass is empty.

Nothing new there.

But it is interesting to note your claims above seem to conflict with......

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