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09-07-2015, 10:48 AM
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To the extent the BOA continues to enjoy the authority and autonomy to run the MB arbitration, that is exactly what is continuing to happen.
09-07-2015, 10:52 AM
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Your litany of rhetorical questions with assumed answers is not persuasive. The BOA has it. If you want the courts to take it from them be prepared to spend a great deal of money and time to oppose them.
09-07-2015, 11:04 AM
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09-07-2015, 12:51 PM
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That claim is based on the subjective and self-serving position of the one making it. APA is also tasked with ensuring a fair process that provides no weapon to one committee not available to another. Advocation of a position whereby one committee can muzzle another would seem to put them in just as much jeopardy as unilaterally adopting any West demand to control or muzzle the East.
APA has essentially opened the gate and allowed a rabid dog into this yard party which is now running willy-nilly all over the place biting everything else it comes into contact with on its way to its primary target. Not blaming them for it as technically, it was the correct thing to do. But the dog hid its foaming teeth and crazed thinking until it got into the yard. It is now gnawing on the East and you're saying if APA doesn't look the other way or impede's the dog before it fatally wonds its target, then the dog has the right to attack APA ?
That's what it sounds like to me. No one is stopping the West from arguing the Nic, no one has prevented the arbitrators from full consideration of it, but demanding others become your unwilling advocates is going too far.
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09-07-2015, 12:56 PM
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Could you post the details of the suit ?
Even in that case, it's an alleged DFR until validated by success in court. So far, all I've seen is incomplete ambiguity in a federal ruling and a litany of assertions.
09-07-2015, 12:57 PM
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I read it as requiring USAPA not not argue anything BUT the Nic IF they want to remain a relevent entity. I must hive missed the requirment for East PILOTS to assume that position and after all, isn't the an East integration committees purpose tomadvocate for the pilots on THEIR pre-merger list ?
[ quote=Cactiboss;1965985] The apa is helping them violate the spirit of the ruling and should be enjoyned from doing so. I can't think of anyone with an ounce of critical thinking that doesn't know this whole new committee is just a way to try and escape the 9th's ruling, it's blatant.
"Spirit" of the ruling ?
That claim is based on the subjective and self-serving position of the one making it. APA is also tasked with ensuring a fair process that provides no weapon to one committee not available to another. Advocation of a position whereby one committee can muzzle another would seem to put them in just as much jeopardy as unilaterally adopting any West demand to control or muzzle the East.
APA has essentially opend the gate and allowed a rabid dog into this yard party which is now running willy-nilly all over the place biting everything else it comes into contact with on its way to its primary target. It is gnawing on the East and you're saying if APA doesn't look the other way or impede's the dog before it fatally wonds its target, then the dog has the right to attack APA ?
That's what it sounds like to me. No one is stopping the West from arguing the Nic, no one has prevented the arbitrators from full consideration of it, but demanding others become your unwilling advocates is goong too far.
[ quote=Cactiboss;1965985] The apa is helping them violate the spirit of the ruling and should be enjoyned from doing so. I can't think of anyone with an ounce of critical thinking that doesn't know this whole new committee is just a way to try and escape the 9th's ruling, it's blatant.
"Spirit" of the ruling ?
That claim is based on the subjective and self-serving position of the one making it. APA is also tasked with ensuring a fair process that provides no weapon to one committee not available to another. Advocation of a position whereby one committee can muzzle another would seem to put them in just as much jeopardy as unilaterally adopting any West demand to control or muzzle the East.
APA has essentially opend the gate and allowed a rabid dog into this yard party which is now running willy-nilly all over the place biting everything else it comes into contact with on its way to its primary target. It is gnawing on the East and you're saying if APA doesn't look the other way or impede's the dog before it fatally wonds its target, then the dog has the right to attack APA ?
That's what it sounds like to me. No one is stopping the West from arguing the Nic, no one has prevented the arbitrators from full consideration of it, but demanding others become your unwilling advocates is goong too far.
09-07-2015, 12:58 PM
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****? You taking lessons in gibberish from the purple one?
09-07-2015, 01:07 PM
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09-07-2015, 01:15 PM
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To put a cherry on that, should anyone else impede that demand, then they too should be sued. Again, this is all an engineered strategy of making it difficult for the arbitrators to not incorporate the Nic in their final ISL. You're busting your hump to get that first goal for upon that, goal's number 2 and 3 are much easier and the hat trick is complete.
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