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Old 08-29-2015, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GHOST
No dog in this fight, just wanting this thing to get done. Cacti, you seem to have a few sources close to the matter. When do you guys believe Silver will issue her order? Additionally, will the SLI continue on the amended schedule (Sept 29th) even if Silver does not issue her order prior to the start of SLI hearings?

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Silver is very slow and kind of unpredictable so no one really knows. She should get the 9th's order by Tuesday and the west will file for expedited hearing immediately and hope she grants it. The case should not affect the sli arbitration timeline.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GHOST
No dog in this fight, just wanting this thing to get done. Cacti, you seem to have a few sources close to the matter. When do you guys believe Silver will issue her order? Additionally, will the SLI continue on the amended schedule (Sept 29th) even if Silver does not issue her order prior to the start of SLI hearings?

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The Arb Panel addressed any delay or impact to the new schedule:

All concerned are well advised to note that strict compliance [with the new schedule] will be required by the Board, unless otherwise agreed by the Parties and approved by the Board; or unless, in the sole judgment of the Board, compelling good cause is shown to justify any further modification. They aren't slowing down, it would seem.


And they addressed any decision Silver may make about who participates and what they may say:

"Whether or not a Merger Committee is required to advocate in favor of adoption of the Nicolau Award, we are not only authorized but obligated, as a result of the provisions of McCaskill-Bond and the language of the Protocol Agreement, to consider and give appropriate weight to all relevant facts and history when determining both an appropriate methodology and when determining whether the resulting integrated seniority list is fair and equitable." They appear pretty confident in their own work.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
The Arb Panel addressed any delay or impact to the new schedule:

All concerned are well advised to note that strict compliance [with the new schedule] will be required by the Board, unless otherwise agreed by the Parties and approved by the Board; or unless, in the sole judgment of the Board, compelling good cause is shown to justify any further modification. They aren't slowing down, it would seem. You quacks just can't comprehend the 9th's ruling, the nic. is lus list for sli purposes, they just didn't bind the boa to it.


And they addressed any decision Silver may make about who participates and what they may say:

"Whether or not a Merger Committee is required to advocate in favor of adoption of the Nicolau Award, we are not only authorized but obligated, as a result of the provisions of McCaskill-Bond and the language of the Protocol Agreement, to consider and give appropriate weight to all relevant facts and history when determining both an appropriate methodology and when determining whether the resulting integrated seniority list is fair and equitable." They appear pretty confident in their own work.
Neither the 9th nor Silver ever said the east couldn't be there. The 9th ordered usapa to show up with the nicolau as the lus list and Silver will order this new committee to do the same.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Neither the 9th nor Silver ever said the east couldn't be there. The 9th ordered usapa to show up with the nicolau as the lus list and Silver will order this new committee to do the same.
Judges tend to limit their rulings to the litigants in their court rooms.

You seem confident in Silver's desire to corrupt her own court. That would just be stupid. No doubt she can be a surprise, but I don't see her issuing rulings on anyone other than than litigants that showed up at her trial.

We'll see. Get ready to start more lawsuits if you think APA and the Arb Panel are not on the up and up.

The Arb Panel was clear. They got this. And no one is going to interfere with a fair and equitable SLI.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
Judges tend to limit their rulings to the litigants in their court rooms.

You seem confident in Silver's desire to corrupt her own court. That would just be stupid. No doubt she can be a surprise, but I don't see her issuing rulings on anyone other than than litigants that showed up at her trial.

We'll see. Get ready to start more lawsuits if you think APA and the Arb Panel are not on the up and up.

The Arb Panel was clear. They got this. And no one is going to interfere with a fair and equitable SLI.
The ruling will apply to anyone representing the east pilots at sli.
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:46 PM
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The ruling will apply to anyone representing the east pilots at sli.
You can guess what her ruling will be and its effect, but you have no idea. Did you read it already?

The Arb Panel was clear in their procedural question award... They really don't care what the courts have to say anymore. The SLI is not the court's responsibility. Fair and equitable is the standard.

The Arb Panel has it now. It will be fair and equitable and we will all live happily ever after.
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
You can guess what her ruling will be and its effect, but you have no idea. Did you read it already?

The Arb Panel was clear in their procedural question award... They really don't care what the courts have to say anymore. The SLI is not the court's responsibility. Fair and equitable is the standard.

The Arb Panel has it now. It will be fair and equitable and we will all live happily ever after.
I'm talking about what list your new committee can bring to sli. You are nuts if you think you can change your name and escape the 9th's ruling.
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:49 PM
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I'm talking about what list your new committee can bring to sli. You are nuts if you think you can change your name and escape the 9th's ruling.
The APA established all three merger committees pursuant to the protocol agreement and MB.

Silver would be wise to stick with her jurisdiction.
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
The APA established all three merger committees pursuant to the protocol agreement and MB.

Silver would be wise to stick with her jurisdiction.
She's a federal judge, you realize she can do whatever she wants to reverse the case?
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She's a federal judge, you realize she can do whatever she wants to reverse the case?
Silver is smart enough to know her jurisdiction. None of the three merger committees were ever in her court room. The protocol agreement was not at trial. She would be a fool to interfere with a fair and equitable process already underway. Some might say the 9th tried to interfere, but the Arbs already adjusted and I believe came out with a very good solution that solidifies their legitimacy. Why would Silver go beyond what the 9th instructed her?

The arbs have it. They already have a 98% solution and will publish in due time. All the pomp and circumstance is just part of the necessary process.
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